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  • Coupon-mad
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    No, this will be standard hearing order wording that calls for your WS and evidence, as normal.

    Both your defence and your WS should have been signed under a SoT.

    Defence and WS are two different submissions.
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  • Mega_Maniac
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    So just to double check I am understanding you correctly - the order does not request a "defence" - but it is expected in any case? I should submit both my defence and WS together and ensure both have a SoT at the bottom of the text?
  • Coupon-mad
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    I thought you had already put in both?
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  • Mega_Maniac
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    I have back in November of 2024 - but in response to the most recent order from the court about the paper hearing I have so far only sent my objection to the paper hearing - which it requests you do "within 2 week of receipt of this order".

    The order says I have until 3rd March 2025 to submit my WS and evidence. I have not re-submitted this yet as it does not mention submitting a 'defence' - only a WS.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Show us the Order.
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  • Mega_Maniac
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    Sure, I wasn't sure if it was so generic that there was no need. Here it is:



  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 3 February at 3:01PM
    Ah... the case is reserved to good old DJ Iyer. That's good news in lots of ways!  He will NEVER allow the added fake £70 so you've chopped that off your claim for starters.

    This is a Judge who knows parking firm crap, so (even if this does proceed in the papers) you will get a proper, considered decision.

    OK so the court already has your defence and WS but it won't hurt to re-send them both to Manchester court & to SIP before the deadline given, along with your COSTS ASSESSMENT if only to make sure the latter include all your stuff in the (full case, all documents) Electronic Bundle that clever DJ Iyer has burdened them with. SIP aren't solicitors. They'll hate that part of the order.

    Are you owed your £303 fee for the set aside? Or was it paid or not 'reserved'?

    What do SIP mean in the POC by:
    ‘INVALID SESSION PURCHASED’?
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  • Mega_Maniac
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    Ok well that's good news on the judge. I will re-send both. I'll put the SoT at the bottom of the WS as well as the Defence in order to comply with the order.

    Costs were 'reserved' from the first trial. 

    Invalid session purchased means I purchased a ticket for a car and not a van (I drive a van). 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 4 February at 1:32AM
    Costs were 'reserved' from the first trial. 
    Add mention of that fact to your WS at the end AND in the covering email AND in your costs assessment, to be sure you get those application and attendance costs even if the 'outrageous scammers' (MP's phrase) discontinue the claim.

    Costs assessment needs two lots of loss of leave/salary for attending two hearings, as well as the £303 fee (attach the receipt for the fee and proof of a day's pay).
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  • Mega_Maniac
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    Costs were 'reserved' from the first trial. 
    Add mention of that fact to your WS at the end AND in the covering email AND in your costs assessment, to be sure you get those application and attendance costs even if the 'outrageous scammers' (MP's phrase) discontinue the claim.

    Costs assessment needs two lots of loss of leave/salary for attending two hearings, as well as the £303 fee (attach the receipt for the fee and proof of a day's pay).
    Thanks. Although if I understand correctly then I am not going to be able to claim any loss of salary, as I am a self employed contractor and cannot 'prove' loss of work. At the moment I have no scheduled work over the period of the current paper hearing. 
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