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Anyone have S&S ISA with Virgin Money?

modelreject
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edited 21 March 2024 at 10:50AM in ISAs & tax-free savings
I have another thread explaining what I want to do with regards to opening a Virgin S&S ISA before tax year end, for allocating maximum £20000 funds. I will be investing approx £3000. Plan is to move this to Virgin Fixed Rate ISA.

The main question is, I see there are fees with regards to management, account holding etc.. If I were to open the account on, let's say 1st April, would I incur and charges before I moved the money to the Fixed Rate on April 6th?

Also, it asks to select investment type when setting up. Low/Medium/High risk. Can I not just shift the money in and decide later. That is, just have it sitting as cash for a few days, and not incur a fee?

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  • ColdIron
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    I have another thread explaining what I want to do with regards to opening a Virgin S&S ISA before tax year end, for allocating maximum £20000 funds. I will be investing approx £3000. Plan is to move this to Virgin Fixed Rate ISA.
    Yes it's this one
    So I have a cash ISA fully funded with£20000 for current year 23/24. I have £40000. Can I open a Stocks & Shares ISA this year, fully fund it, transfer to the Cash ISA in April and then add the other £20000?

    So instead of just being able to fund £20000 into my cash isa and have £40000 in it, I would be able to have £60000 making interest in 24/25.
    And as was explained you can't do this as it would exceed the £20,000 annual allowance which pretty much makes the questions irrelevant
    You can't subscribe any more money 2023/24. All you can do is wait until 06/04/2024
  • modelreject
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    edited 21 March 2024 at 11:53AM
    Surely you can invest in one Cash ISA and one S&S ISA, no? So £17000 in cash isa and I want to open S&S ISA this tax year to add £3000 to. "allocating maximum £20000 funds"

    Then come 6th April, I can add another £20000 to Fixed rate ISA. I think I may have got this all wrong?

    That previous thread you refer to, highlighted the fact that I couldn't do the option of adding more that £20000. This one https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6513493/set-up-s-s-isa-before-year-end-and-transfer-next-tax-year#latest
  • ColdIron
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    edited 21 March 2024 at 12:49PM
    If you have multiple threads relating to similar subjects it might be worth pointing out which one, or giving us a summary of the issues when creating a new thread, or perhaps just continuing the relevant thread
    Surely you can invest in one Cash ISA and one S&S ISA, no? So £17000 in cash isa and I want to open S&S ISA this tax year to add £3000 to. "allocating maximum £20000 funds"
    Yes that would be fine, although in the thread referring to your wife you mention £16,000 and £4,000
    Then come 6th April, I can add another £20000 to Fixed rate ISA. I think I may have got this all wrong?
    That should also be fine, Virgin say
    • You can pay money into your ISA as soon as it's opened, right up until 30 days after we stop selling this account. After that you can't pay in any more money.
    https://uk.virginmoney.com/savings/products/1_year_fixed_rate_cash_isa_exclusive_issue_11/#how-do-i-open-and-manage-my-account
    To address you original question
    The main question is, I see there are fees with regards to management, account holding etc.. If I were to open the account on, let's say 1st April, would I incur and charges before I moved the money to the Fixed Rate on April 6th?

    Also, it asks to select investment type when setting up. Low/Medium/High risk. Can I not just shift the money in and decide later. That is, just have it sitting as cash for a few days, and not incur a fee?
    I'm not familiar with Virgin's charging structure but this is what they say:
    • Our charges are 0.75% in total each year, based on the value of your account. So, if your account had a value of £10,000 for a whole year that would be £75.
    Most (all?) S&S providers allow you to keep uninvested cash and usually only charge for investments, it's not clear whether "value of your account" would include cash
    • The 0.75% is made up of:
    • 0.30% per year (that’s £30 of the £75 total charge above) is an Account Charge for running your account. We collect this charge by selling a small amount of your investment units each month.
    • 0.45% per year (that’s £45 of the £75 total charge above) is an Annual Management Charge for managing your investments. We allow for this charge by adjusting your daily unit price.
    It's not clear how these could apply to cash, they can't sell what you don't have or adjust its unit price
    Perhaps just open the account and plough through the questions. In the unlikely event that they can find a way to charge you it would be minimal as they are annual percentages and not fixed amounts. It beats not being able to use your whole allowance
    Good luck
  • modelreject
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    @ColdIron Thanks for the detailed response. Duly noted about the thread referencing  :) 
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