Parkingeye Home Bargains Pwllheli

LDast

That land appears to be next to a railway station. Do you know who owns it? Is/was it part of the car park for the station that is/was there?

GelatoMan

Gr1pr said:

Depends on the judge on the day and if PE have all their ducks in order or not, same as in the Beavis case, if it gets to an actual hearing in court , because they will trot out the Beavis case 

Perhaps its your friend who should be worried about paying the £195 if you lose in court. ? ( The friend who told you to ignore it ?  )

Court is Judge Bingo on the day, but the Supreme Court ruling makes these cases harder to win , especially for overstays, plus Parking Eye litigation are doing this in house, not farmed out to a 3rd party lawyer where they are less likely to get a win

I hope that you find the one chink in their armour ( but your anecdotal descriptions worry me the more you find out )

From reading the forum I had belived it was a slam dunk if I followed the process and produced a robust defence then they didn't have a leg to stand on.  Now I'm getting a sense that it really is not easy to win 

GelatoMan

LDast said:

That land appears to be next to a railway station. Do you know who owns it? Is/was it part of the car park for the station that is/was there?

The rail station is around the corner the car park just borders the rail line. I don't know who owns the land but Home bargains appear to rent it 

Gr1pr

Home Bargains will definitely be tenants, so I suggest that you find out who the retail park management team is, or the landowner, or both 

Plenty of threads on here with advice from Umkomaas and Fruitcake about how to go about it 

What are your core details in this robust defence that you speak of ?  Meaning, what is the golden nugget that will win the case for you, because I haven't seen it yet, so a core defence point that will win this for you even if the Beavis case is brought up 

I read this thread from page 1 and haven't seen that golden nugget, but I really hope that you have one or more 

The usual suspects are the NTK PCN letter which we have not seen, the signage, plus the landowner authority, they are the likely debating issues in court 

Both parties have legs to stand on, both parties get the chance to score penalties, the final score is currently unknown 

GelatoMan

Gr1pr said:

Home Bargains will definitely be tenants, so I suggest that you find out who the retail park management team is, or the landowner, or both 

Plenty of threads on here with advice from Umkomaas and Fruitcake about how to go about it 

What are your core details in this robust defence that you speak of ?  Meaning, what is the golden nugget that will win the case for you, because I haven't seen it yet, so a core defence point that will win this for you even if the Beavis case is brought up 

I read this thread from page 1 and haven't seen that golden nugget, but I really hope that you have one or more 

Both parties have legs to stand on, both parties get the chance to score penalties, the final score is currently unknown 

I have no golden nugget I simply did not notice the signs, overstayed the time limit, received a ticket, ignored it and then read this forum and came to the mistaken understanding that ParkingEye were doing little more than trying their arm. All I had to do was hear with it, present a tailored version of the defence outlined on this forum and they would fold.

I was from what I now hear mistaken.

Perhaps make a without prejudice offer to pay £85 and save them attending court

Gr1pr

You only posted pictures of the signs today and your thread started after the claim form was received, so we are all playing catch-up 

Having seen all your pictures I cannot disagree with your conclusion here, especially as Parking Eye are looking at you as Beavis 2

Had you ignored your friend and come here when the NTK PCN letter first arrived then proper targeted advice would have been given at that time, including complaining to the landowner, getting pictures of the signs, comparing your PCN and signs to the Beavis case, etc

But your learned (sic) "friend" told you to ignore the letters, so we are where we are , fighting an out of control fire with a small car extinguisher 

A settlement is one option, one they have tried several times previously, including the original PCN letter, but they paid one court fee already so I think that their counter offer will split the difference 

Coupon-mad

GelatoMan said:

Gr1pr said:

Home Bargains will definitely be tenants, so I suggest that you find out who the retail park management team is, or the landowner, or both 

Plenty of threads on here with advice from Umkomaas and Fruitcake about how to go about it 

What are your core details in this robust defence that you speak of ?  Meaning, what is the golden nugget that will win the case for you, because I haven't seen it yet, so a core defence point that will win this for you even if the Beavis case is brought up 

I read this thread from page 1 and haven't seen that golden nugget, but I really hope that you have one or more 

Both parties have legs to stand on, both parties get the chance to score penalties, the final score is currently unknown 

I have no golden nugget I simply did not notice the signs, overstayed the time limit, received a ticket, ignored it and then read this forum and came to the mistaken understanding that ParkingEye were doing little more than trying their arm. All I had to do was hear with it, present a tailored version of the defence outlined on this forum and they would fold.

I was from what I now hear mistaken.

Perhaps make a without prejudice offer to pay £85 and save them attending court

You already had a court claim when you first asked for help, so defending it was a no brainer, regardless of facts or merit.

Your only alternative at claim form stage would have been to pay in full - and that made no sense.  For better to defend at that stage and push it on a bit, even if you now try to settle it, because you WILL pay a lot less than the claim.

If you have decided that the signs are fairly clear and you can't see a win at a hearing after all, why not offer £30 to settle, as a starter for ten?

All it takes is an email to the PEye email address given in the NEWBIES thread.

They won't accept £30 but would probably settle at £60, especially if you get HB to email them too.

Le_Kirk

GelatoMan said:

So I've looked at the Beavis Signs and the ones in Home Bargains don't look much different other than the colour. Should I be worried?

That sign is good evidence to go with your WS if you haven't submitted it yet) that they are claiming a sum on the N1 claim form that is greater than or different to the sum on their sign - the contract!

GelatoMan

So pleased can I have some help. My daughter has been very ill so I have not given this the attention it needs.

I made a WP settlement offer of £30 they rejected and asked for £130 I offered £80 they ignored th offer.

The case is on 25th September and I have not submitted a Witness Statement, is it too late I was not asked for one, given a date for submission and I don't know how to submit it 

Any help would be amazing

Thank you 

Le_Kirk

On your Notice of Allocation there will be a date (or it might say 14 days before the hearing) for submission of witness statement and evidence.  Get it in NOW today, don't mention it is late and hope the judge accepts it