Loud Baby

RelievedSheff

Marvel1 said:

RelievedSheff said:

Having lived next door to an extremely noisy baby then I do have some sympathy for the neighbours in this instance. They have not brought this situation about themselves. Your friends have made a decision to start a family, it is really their responsibility to ensure that their decisions do not adversely affect those living around them.

The neighbours have brought it upon themselves by living in a terraced house and made that decision.

However the neighbours seemingly have been living there with no noise issue previously. If that is the case introducing a noise nuisance (in this case a baby) is not of the neighbours making and it is understandable why they are annoyed.

Yes it is natural that babies cry, but that doesn't make it any less of a noise nuisance to those living around the source of the noise and is of little comfort to those being disturbed.

sheramber

MY nephew was a night owl who vomited when left crying resulting in  a danger of choking.

It is not always right to leave a baby crying. They may be in pain and that is the only way to tell you- never heard of colic?

My grandson eventually had to get medication in his bottle due to acid reflux.  But , until it was diagnosed he spent many hours crying , despite being held and comforted.

The baby  in the first post is still night feeding so it is not appropriate to leave him/her to cry.

If a child is hungry it will cry,  but that should not lead to  extended crying times. Once feeding it is not going to be crying. If prolonged crying after feeding then an appointment  with the health visitor or GP  should be arranged.
With my son, once night feeding was no longer, on the occasion he did start crying one of us went to him before he got distressed, and  gently stroked and patted his back,( He slept on his front and as an adult still does) 

No lifting, no speaking just comforting touch. He didn't wake up fully and went back to sleep quickly. 

Skiddaw1

RelievedSheff said:

Marvel1 said:

RelievedSheff said:

Having lived next door to an extremely noisy baby then I do have some sympathy for the neighbours in this instance. They have not brought this situation about themselves. Your friends have made a decision to start a family, it is really their responsibility to ensure that their decisions do not adversely affect those living around them.

The neighbours have brought it upon themselves by living in a terraced house and made that decision.

However the neighbours seemingly have been living there with no noise issue previously. If that is the case introducing a noise nuisance (in this case a baby) is not of the neighbours making and it is understandable why they are annoyed.

Yes it is natural that babies cry, but that doesn't make it any less of a noise nuisance to those living around the source of the noise and is of little comfort to those being disturbed.

Didn't the OP say that the neighbours in question are serial complainers however? They don't even live next door.

As for the poor baby.... some cry more than others (my nephew, for example, was a Holy Terror) but they all come out the other side (usually quite quickly). I'd have a great deal more sympathy for the neighbour if they showed a bit of compassion for the baby's parents and at least tried to make friends. I'm reminded of that advert (is it Sainsbury's or Tesco?) where the neighbour cooks a big 'it gets easier' mushroom stew thingy for the parents of the recently arrived baby. That's the sort of neighbour you want ideally.

ThisIsWeird

sheramber said:

MY nephew was a night owl who vomited when left crying resulting in  a danger of choking.

It is not always right to leave a baby crying. They may be in pain and that is the only way to tell you- never heard of colic?

My grandson eventually had to get medication in his bottle due to acid reflux.  But , until it was diagnosed he spent many hours crying , despite being held and comforted.

The baby  in the first post is still night feeding so it is not appropriate to leave him/her to cry.

If a child is hungry it will cry,  but that should not lead to  extended crying times. Once feeding it is not going to be crying. If prolonged crying after feeding then an appointment  with the health visitor or GP  should be arranged.
With my son, once night feeding was no longer, on the occasion he did start crying one of us went to him before he got distressed, and  gently stroked and patted his back,( He slept on his front and as an adult still does) 

No lifting, no speaking just comforting touch. He didn't wake up fully and went back to sleep quickly. 

Sensible precautions there - thank you.
To be clear, in my case I began to suspect summat going on with cunning baby (ok, not consciously!). 
She'd fall asleep in our arms easily, go rigid and scream when lowered into 'cot, and calm down instantly when cuddled again. Hmm...
I decided that this needed to be 'tested'... And, I stayed with her throughout - I would not have left her alone during this.
But, man, it was transformative. The occasional 'trying it on' afterwards, but bedtimes became a pleasure.
It is incredibly easy to inadvertently reinforce 'bad' behaviour. And it certainly won't help the OP's friends if they know they have an irascible neighbour fetching their writing pad out of t'drawer as they try to placate their child.
We will all have witnessed similar reinforcing behaviour continue into toddlership and beyond - the crying child in the supermarket being repeatedly placated with a sweetie. (Not at all suggesting this will be the case here, but just highlighting that such a natural and innocent response will only exacerbate the situation.)

Marvel1

RelievedSheff said:

Marvel1 said:

RelievedSheff said:

Having lived next door to an extremely noisy baby then I do have some sympathy for the neighbours in this instance. They have not brought this situation about themselves. Your friends have made a decision to start a family, it is really their responsibility to ensure that their decisions do not adversely affect those living around them.

The neighbours have brought it upon themselves by living in a terraced house and made that decision.

However the neighbours seemingly have been living there with no noise issue previously. If that is the case introducing a noise nuisance (in this case a baby) is not of the neighbours making and it is understandable why they are annoyed.

Yes it is natural that babies cry, but that doesn't make it any less of a noise nuisance to those living around the source of the noise and is of little comfort to those being disturbed.

Living in a terraced house carrys this risk (noise) sooner or later.

markin

Is it all hard flooring? If so lots of big rugs, you can also hang rugs on walls.

prettyandfluffy

markin said:

Is it all hard flooring? If so lots of big rugs, you can also hang rugs on walls.

Good point. All soft furnishings absorb (deaden) noise to an extent; long thick curtains will help, throws on a leather sofa etc. 

Sistergold

Really, one will tell a neighbour that their baby is too loud? What has the world come to? 

elsien

Marvel1 said:

RelievedSheff said:

Marvel1 said:

RelievedSheff said:

Having lived next door to an extremely noisy baby then I do have some sympathy for the neighbours in this instance. They have not brought this situation about themselves. Your friends have made a decision to start a family, it is really their responsibility to ensure that their decisions do not adversely affect those living around them.

The neighbours have brought it upon themselves by living in a terraced house and made that decision.

However the neighbours seemingly have been living there with no noise issue previously. If that is the case introducing a noise nuisance (in this case a baby) is not of the neighbours making and it is understandable why they are annoyed.

Yes it is natural that babies cry, but that doesn't make it any less of a noise nuisance to those living around the source of the noise and is of little comfort to those being disturbed.

Living in a terraced house carrys this risk (noise) sooner or later.

I do think the neighbour is being an idiot however but talk about living in a terrace, as if there was a choice. Those of us on lower incomes have a choice of a flat or terrace. We can’t afford anything different.
So unless the other poster talking about noise nuisance, soundproofing and everything else thinks that only people in detached houses should be allowed to have children, I would like to welcome them to the real world. 

BobT36

Sistergold said:

Really, one will tell a neighbour that their baby is too loud? What has the world come to? 

Just read those "It was their choice to have a baby so blablabla!" posts... 
(I'm currently childless, so unbiased with that. However I'm also realistic in that unless we wish extinction than we should be encouraging people to have children. It's also where future tax & pension payers come from).