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Caught running a red 10.1 seconds on it being on red

Hello all, completely clean license but received an incident where i have ran a red light 10.1 seconds in ( cant even remember doing this) and no i don't run red lights i have no idea how I've managed to do this. This has been summoned to be heard by a court magistrate, can someone please inform me on what to expect and if i will need to appear or just court papers?


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  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 18,567 Forumite
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    Did you receive a notice of persecution (NIP) requesting the driver details prior to receiving the court summons? Usually it’s a fixed penalty and £100 fine for running a red light.
  • Did you receive a notice of persecution (NIP) requesting the driver details prior to receiving the court summons? Usually it’s a fixed penalty and £100 fine for running a red light.
    3 points as well :smile:
  • mr_stripey
    mr_stripey Posts: 873 Forumite
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    probably best not to attempt to use any defence saying "you have no idea how you did it."

    running a red light is bad enough, not knowing you ran the light is probably even worse (though not sure on the legal position)

  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 18,567 Forumite
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    edited 29 February at 4:02PM
    Did you receive a notice of persecution (NIP) requesting the driver details prior to receiving the court summons? Usually it’s a fixed penalty and £100 fine for running a red light.
    3 points as well :smile:
    That’s what I meant to write, senior moment again 👨🏻‍🦳
  • The first letter i received was to admit to being the driver, and the second letter i have received informing me that it has been referred to the courts to be heard by a magistrate
  • i did not say this in any way of being an excuse or a defence, simply made a mistake obviously not concentrating which i have took responsibility for and just trying to find out what to expect 

     mr_stripey said:
    probably best not to attempt to use any defence saying "you have no idea how you did it."

    running a red light is bad enough, not knowing you ran the light is probably even worse (though not sure on the legal position)


  • The first letter i received was to admit to being the driver, and the second letter i have received informing me that it has been referred to the courts to be heard by a magistrate


    Did you receive a notice of persecution (NIP) requesting the driver details prior to receiving the court summons? Usually it’s a fixed penalty and £100 fine for running a red light.

  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,574 Forumite
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    Did you receive a notice of persecution (NIP) requesting the driver details prior to receiving the court summons? Usually it’s a fixed penalty and £100 fine for running a red light.
    Not for such a long time into red
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,574 Forumite
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    Hello all, completely clean license but received an incident where i have ran a red light 10.1 seconds in ( cant even remember doing this) and no i don't run red lights i have no idea how I've managed to do this. This has been summoned to be heard by a court magistrate, can someone please inform me on what to expect and if i will need to appear or just court papers?


    You should be asked to plead by letter. As you admit guilt, you won't need to go to court. 

    3 points, an income-related fine, discounted by 33% for an early guilty fee but subject to a 40% surcharge.
  • Thank you for your replyCar_54 said:
    Hello all, completely clean license but received an incident where i have ran a red light 10.1 seconds in ( cant even remember doing this) and no i don't run red lights i have no idea how I've managed to do this. This has been summoned to be heard by a court magistrate, can someone please inform me on what to expect and if i will need to appear or just court papers?


    You should be asked to plead by letter. As you admit guilt, you won't need to go to court. 

    3 points, an income-related fine, discounted by 33% for an early guilty fee but subject to a 40% surcharge.

     take it I should be expecting a long wait to receive these papers?
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