retrospective Planning Refusal on Render

baker6743

Hi Guy's ive applied for a government grant the start of 23 which the government put solar panels in and 100mm insulation with silicon render to make the property more energy efficient, In Nov 23 the council have pulled me on it and asked me to put retrospective planning in which i did they have now refused this as they do not like me changing the look of the house, they have gave me 12 weeks to remove it back to the original state 

TELLIT01

Are you in a conservation area?

baker6743

TELLIT01 said:

Are you in a conservation area?

hi no im not thats what i dont get, im just making a council house look and feel better.

eddddy

Is it a listed building and/or is the property in a conservation area?

You can appeal the council's decision...

• If it's a listed building, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-listed-building-consent-decision

• If not, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-householder-planning-decision

You may want to hire a planning consultant to help you.


And/or you could try discussing other options with the council which are less drastic than removing all the render. For example, would changing the roofline, or adding other architectural features make it acceptable?

Albermarle

gavin7 said:

TELLIT01 said:

Are you in a conservation area?

hi no im not thats what i dont get, im just making a council house look and feel better.

Is it an ex council house that you bought, or actually still a council/Local authority property ?

eddddy

Just to add - if it's not a listed building or in a conservation area, rendering / cladding etc is usually a permitted development.

Just to make sure - is it definitely planning consent that has been refused? 


As opposed to...

• a Building Regs issue?

• Or is the house leasehold (where the council is the freeholder), and rendering it is a breach of the lease?

• Or is the house freehold, but rendering it has breached a restrictive covenant?

baker6743

eddddy said:

Is it a listed building and/or is the property in a conservation area?

You can appeal the council's decision...

• If it's a listed building, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-listed-building-consent-decision

• If not, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-householder-planning-decision

You may want to hire a planning consultant to help you.


And/or you could try discussing other options with the council which are less drastic than removing all the render. For example, would changing the roofline, or adding other architectural features make it acceptable?

thank you no its not a listed building or in conservation area thats what i dont get.

Section62

gavin7 said:

eddddy said:

Is it a listed building and/or is the property in a conservation area?

You can appeal the council's decision...

• If it's a listed building, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-listed-building-consent-decision

• If not, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-householder-planning-decision

You may want to hire a planning consultant to help you.


And/or you could try discussing other options with the council which are less drastic than removing all the render. For example, would changing the roofline, or adding other architectural features make it acceptable?

thank you no its not a listed building or in conservation area thats what i dont get.

If the council asked you to make a retrospective application that would suggest the work wasn't (for some reason) permitted development.

What were the exact grounds for refusal? Not liking the change in appearance would suggest listing or conservation area.  But if you've added 100mm+render to the external dimensions of the house (particularly at the front) then this might be a 'technicality' issue which they may have made a mistake over.

If it is an ex-council property, have you got a covenant saying you can't make certain alterations without the council's prior consent?  That isn't the same as planning permission.  Has someone at the council crossed some wires with you?

baker6743

Albermarle said:

gavin7 said:

TELLIT01 said:

Are you in a conservation area?

hi no im not thats what i dont get, im just making a council house look and feel better.

Is it an ex council house that you bought, or actually still a council/Local authority property ?

Hi
Its a ex council house but the people before me had it 19 years so they haven't had it a while

baker6743

gavin7 said:

eddddy said:

Is it a listed building and/or is the property in a conservation area?

You can appeal the council's decision...

• If it's a listed building, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-listed-building-consent-decision

• If not, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-householder-planning-decision

You may want to hire a planning consultant to help you.


And/or you could try discussing other options with the council which are less drastic than removing all the render. For example, would changing the roofline, or adding other architectural features make it acceptable?

thank you no its not a listed building or in conservation area thats what i dont get.

Thanks for the response no its 100% not listed ect i put in retrospective planning in as this is what they asked me to do then refused it.

baker6743

Section62 said:

gavin7 said:

eddddy said:

Is it a listed building and/or is the property in a conservation area?

You can appeal the council's decision...

• If it's a listed building, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-listed-building-consent-decision

• If not, see: https://www.gov.uk/appeal-householder-planning-decision

You may want to hire a planning consultant to help you.


And/or you could try discussing other options with the council which are less drastic than removing all the render. For example, would changing the roofline, or adding other architectural features make it acceptable?

thank you no its not a listed building or in conservation area thats what i dont get.

If the council asked you to make a retrospective application that would suggest the work wasn't (for some reason) permitted development.

What were the exact grounds for refusal? Not liking the change in appearance would suggest listing or conservation area.  But if you've added 100mm+render to the external dimensions of the house (particularly at the front) then this might be a 'technicality' issue which they may have made a mistake over.

If it is an ex-council property, have you got a covenant saying you can't make certain alterations without the council's prior consent?  That isn't the same as planning permission.  Has someone at the council crossed some wires with you?

Had a look and there's nothing to say i can do anything, the grounds of refusal is the rest of the road is brickwork but this was a grant i applied for on the government web site under the green home scheme