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Solar Panels but no smart metre

Beksybob
Beksybob Posts: 9 Forumite
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edited 25 February 2024 at 11:34AM in Energy
Hello,

I have recently had solar panels installed but I don't have a smart meter, and it is my understanding that I need one if I'm to sell energy back to the grid (hopefully the panels will be producing surplus in the summer!). My electricity supplier (British Gas) isn't installing smart meters in my area and neither are Octopus. These seem to be the only two companies that offer a half decent rate with SEG. Is there anything I can do? It will be absolutely galling if I end up giving British Gas any amount of free electricity!
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  • Alnat1
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    Your exported electricity goes into the national grid and British Gas won't know anything about it, so they aren't getting anything for free. 

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  • amanda1024
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    edited 23 February 2024 at 4:52PM
    Have you tried getting a smart meter with a different supplier then switching to Octopus or British Gas? Have they given a reason they’re not installing in your area?
  • Alnat1 said:
    Your exported electricity goes into the national grid and British Gas won't know anything about it, so they aren't getting anything for free. 

    Fair point, I feel slightly better about it now  :D
  • Have you tried getting a smart meter with a different supplier then switching to Octopus or British Gas? Have they given a reason they’re not installing in your area?
    No I haven't, maybe that's what I should do - get in touch with everybody to see if anyone will install one. They've just said their engineers aren't working in the area and they can't say when they will be.
  • sevenhills
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    Beksybob said:

    I have recently had solar panels installed but I don't have a smart metre, and it is my understanding that I need one if I'm to sell energy back to the grid (hopefully the panels will be producing surplus in the summer!). My electricity supplier (British Gas) isn't installing smart metres in my area and neither are Octopus. These seem to be the only two companies that offer a half decent rate with SEG. Is there anything I can do? It will be absolutely galling if I end up giving British Gas any amount of free electricity!

    Surely you have a meter that tells you what energy you are generating?
    My supplier and FIT(Good Energy) are different companies.
  • QrizB
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    Surely you have a meter that tells you what energy you are generating?
    A generation meter, however, is useless for metered export.
    In order to be paid for metered export, you need an export meter. This typically means a smart meter.

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  • Beksybob said:

    I have recently had solar panels installed but I don't have a smart metre, and it is my understanding that I need one if I'm to sell energy back to the grid (hopefully the panels will be producing surplus in the summer!). My electricity supplier (British Gas) isn't installing smart metres in my area and neither are Octopus. These seem to be the only two companies that offer a half decent rate with SEG. Is there anything I can do? It will be absolutely galling if I end up giving British Gas any amount of free electricity!

    Surely you have a meter that tells you what energy you are generating?
    My supplier and FIT(Good Energy) are different companies.
    Works for FIT payments, but this is a recent installation so gets no FIT payments. SM is the only way the OP can get paid for exporting. 
  • Beksybob said:

    I have recently had solar panels installed but I don't have a smart metre, and it is my understanding that I need one if I'm to sell energy back to the grid (hopefully the panels will be producing surplus in the summer!). My electricity supplier (British Gas) isn't installing smart metres in my area and neither are Octopus. These seem to be the only two companies that offer a half decent rate with SEG. Is there anything I can do? It will be absolutely galling if I end up giving British Gas any amount of free electricity!

    Surely you have a meter that tells you what energy you are generating?
    My supplier and FIT(Good Energy) are different companies.
    I do and I can see how much I have exported, but unfortunately they won't take my word for it! Even though they will accept my meter reading for how much I've used but there you go.
  • QrizB
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    I would be interested to know how you calculate how much electricity you have exported, when you don't have an export meter.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 33MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
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  • chris_n
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    QrizB said:
    I would be interested to know how you calculate how much electricity you have exported, when you don't have an export meter.
    One meter before the solar (the utility company one) and another between a Henley block and the consumer unit would do it. The difference between the two would be on site generation. 
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