Cost of high end bathroom and installation these days

Doozergirl

harveyboy6666 said:

Thx all - its all duravit fittings so wall hung rimless loo built in flush vanity hung  sink with drawers and swivel tap walk in shower with frame for bottles and built in seat new flooring lights added new extractor fan and having the whole room done in waterproof sheeting basically everything the quote is like 4 pages long 

I don't think your price is unreasonable at all.  I understand what you're describing and the work that goes into it.  A wall hung toilet, for example, is a three-fix project.  

Anyone saying a high end bathroom is £9-12k and can be fitted by a 'tiler' has no genuine trade experience.  Yes, you can have a decent bathroom for that but it won't be high end, with recesses and built in seating and certainly won't include Duravit.  You can see the difference.

Before lockdown, my average bathroom price was coming in at around £13k.  I'd use a lot of Crosswater/Bauhaus products as standard, not quite as expensive as Duravit.  My own bathroom is Duravit sanitaryware with Crosswater brassware.  

With an average 38% increase in materials and a serious skills shortage affecting wage inflation since the pandemic, £19k sounds in the correct ballpark.  

Albermarle

I suppose the issue is that one persons view of what is high end, would be just bog standard to a more discerning customer ( or one with maybe money to burn) .

twopenny

Sounds reasonable to me.
You describe quite a bit of work. A lot of things out our the norm.
I have a tiny bathroom with mostly basic fittings for £5,000+ replacing mostly what was there, removing and disposing the old stuff, plastering and tiling. I'm thinking that last bit will apply to you also.
That was the best quote and fittings were on discount.

So yes, perfectly reasonable.

bex2012

We had a quote for our ensuite (approx 1.7 x 1.8m) using Ambiance Bain furniture and shower tray, hansgrohe brassware, and a rimless toilet - about £6k for fixtures, and £10k for fitting. That didnt include tiles. Went a bit more middle of the range (roper rhodes taps, tavistock furniture), and that came in at £9.5k including fixtures and fitting.

jonnydeppiwish!

Doozergirl said:

harveyboy6666 said:

Thx all - its all duravit fittings so wall hung rimless loo built in flush vanity hung  sink with drawers and swivel tap walk in shower with frame for bottles and built in seat new flooring lights added new extractor fan and having the whole room done in waterproof sheeting basically everything the quote is like 4 pages long 

I don't think your price is unreasonable at all.  I understand what you're describing and the work that goes into it.  A wall hung toilet, for example, is a three-fix project.  

Anyone saying a high end bathroom is £9-12k and can be fitted by a 'tiler' has no genuine trade experience.  Yes, you can have a decent bathroom for that but it won't be high end, with recesses and built in seating and certainly won't include Duravit.  You can see the difference.

Before lockdown, my average bathroom price was coming in at around £13k.  I'd use a lot of Crosswater/Bauhaus products as standard, not quite as expensive as Duravit.  My own bathroom is Duravit sanitaryware with Crosswater brassware.  

With an average 38% increase in materials and a serious skills shortage affecting wage inflation since the pandemic, £19k sounds in the correct ballpark.  

Yes they can, it’s known as sourcing different trades to do the works. A lot of tilers also fit bathrooms because of the work involved. You cut out the middleman if you purchase the equipment yourself because that is where a lot of the companies make their money by charging for one thing but paying a lot less for it. 

If you go to company to get it fitted then it’ll be even more.

This is having fitted 3 bathrooms in the last 8 years, the last being last year. 

Doozergirl

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Doozergirl said:

harveyboy6666 said:

Thx all - its all duravit fittings so wall hung rimless loo built in flush vanity hung  sink with drawers and swivel tap walk in shower with frame for bottles and built in seat new flooring lights added new extractor fan and having the whole room done in waterproof sheeting basically everything the quote is like 4 pages long 

I don't think your price is unreasonable at all.  I understand what you're describing and the work that goes into it.  A wall hung toilet, for example, is a three-fix project.  

Anyone saying a high end bathroom is £9-12k and can be fitted by a 'tiler' has no genuine trade experience.  Yes, you can have a decent bathroom for that but it won't be high end, with recesses and built in seating and certainly won't include Duravit.  You can see the difference.

Before lockdown, my average bathroom price was coming in at around £13k.  I'd use a lot of Crosswater/Bauhaus products as standard, not quite as expensive as Duravit.  My own bathroom is Duravit sanitaryware with Crosswater brassware.  

With an average 38% increase in materials and a serious skills shortage affecting wage inflation since the pandemic, £19k sounds in the correct ballpark.  

Yes they can, it’s known as sourcing different trades to do the works. A lot of tilers also fit bathrooms because of the work involved. You cut out the middleman if you purchase the equipment yourself because that is where a lot of the companies make their money by charging for one thing but paying a lot less for it. 

If you go to company to get it fitted then it’ll be even more.

This is having fitted 3 bathrooms in the last 8 years, the last being last year. 

You're talking to someone who has spent over 20 years doing what you're describing and it took time to build a capable team of qualified trades to produce top quality work.    If you want to employ a 'tiler' on a labour-only contract, go ahead, but I wouldn't be risking the value of the product on one person with no warranty.  I had a team for a reason. 

It has always been okay to hire your own people but there is a standard at which the potential losses outweigh the gains, particularly with one person.  It takes a long time to perfect a trade and a bathroom is a proper building project with multiple trades involved, more as the quality of finish improve.  

I'm still very much involved in the industry and I know what £9k buys these days too.  

I'm not a granny yet, but you're attempting to teach me to suck eggs if you've fitted three bathrooms.  

jonnydeppiwish!

Doozergirl said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Doozergirl said:

harveyboy6666 said:

Thx all - its all duravit fittings so wall hung rimless loo built in flush vanity hung  sink with drawers and swivel tap walk in shower with frame for bottles and built in seat new flooring lights added new extractor fan and having the whole room done in waterproof sheeting basically everything the quote is like 4 pages long 

I don't think your price is unreasonable at all.  I understand what you're describing and the work that goes into it.  A wall hung toilet, for example, is a three-fix project.  

Anyone saying a high end bathroom is £9-12k and can be fitted by a 'tiler' has no genuine trade experience.  Yes, you can have a decent bathroom for that but it won't be high end, with recesses and built in seating and certainly won't include Duravit.  You can see the difference.

Before lockdown, my average bathroom price was coming in at around £13k.  I'd use a lot of Crosswater/Bauhaus products as standard, not quite as expensive as Duravit.  My own bathroom is Duravit sanitaryware with Crosswater brassware.  

With an average 38% increase in materials and a serious skills shortage affecting wage inflation since the pandemic, £19k sounds in the correct ballpark.  

Yes they can, it’s known as sourcing different trades to do the works. A lot of tilers also fit bathrooms because of the work involved. You cut out the middleman if you purchase the equipment yourself because that is where a lot of the companies make their money by charging for one thing but paying a lot less for it. 

If you go to company to get it fitted then it’ll be even more.

This is having fitted 3 bathrooms in the last 8 years, the last being last year. 

You're talking to someone who has spent over 20 years doing what you're describing and it took time to build a capable team of qualified trades to produce top quality work.    If you want to employ a 'tiler' on a labour-only contract, go ahead, but I wouldn't be risking the value of the product on one person with no warranty.  I had a team for a reason. 

It has always been okay to hire your own people but there is a standard at which the potential losses outweigh the gains, particularly with one person.  It takes a long time to perfect a trade and a bathroom is a proper building project with multiple trades involved, more as the quality of finish improve.  

I'm still very much involved in the industry and I know what £9k buys these days too.  

I'm not a granny yet, but you're attempting to teach me to suck eggs if you've fitted three bathrooms.  

I’m not, I’m just saying it’s possible to do it with £9k to £12k. Any competent DIYer can strip and replumb a bathroom assuming there are no real changes to waste. Sourcing the supplies below ‘showroom’ price is also straightforward.

Assuming you have a competent tiler, then the desired high end finish is quite achievable.

Doozergirl

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Doozergirl said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Doozergirl said:

harveyboy6666 said:

Thx all - its all duravit fittings so wall hung rimless loo built in flush vanity hung  sink with drawers and swivel tap walk in shower with frame for bottles and built in seat new flooring lights added new extractor fan and having the whole room done in waterproof sheeting basically everything the quote is like 4 pages long 

I don't think your price is unreasonable at all.  I understand what you're describing and the work that goes into it.  A wall hung toilet, for example, is a three-fix project.  

Anyone saying a high end bathroom is £9-12k and can be fitted by a 'tiler' has no genuine trade experience.  Yes, you can have a decent bathroom for that but it won't be high end, with recesses and built in seating and certainly won't include Duravit.  You can see the difference.

Before lockdown, my average bathroom price was coming in at around £13k.  I'd use a lot of Crosswater/Bauhaus products as standard, not quite as expensive as Duravit.  My own bathroom is Duravit sanitaryware with Crosswater brassware.  

With an average 38% increase in materials and a serious skills shortage affecting wage inflation since the pandemic, £19k sounds in the correct ballpark.  

Yes they can, it’s known as sourcing different trades to do the works. A lot of tilers also fit bathrooms because of the work involved. You cut out the middleman if you purchase the equipment yourself because that is where a lot of the companies make their money by charging for one thing but paying a lot less for it. 

If you go to company to get it fitted then it’ll be even more.

This is having fitted 3 bathrooms in the last 8 years, the last being last year. 

You're talking to someone who has spent over 20 years doing what you're describing and it took time to build a capable team of qualified trades to produce top quality work.    If you want to employ a 'tiler' on a labour-only contract, go ahead, but I wouldn't be risking the value of the product on one person with no warranty.  I had a team for a reason. 

It has always been okay to hire your own people but there is a standard at which the potential losses outweigh the gains, particularly with one person.  It takes a long time to perfect a trade and a bathroom is a proper building project with multiple trades involved, more as the quality of finish improve.  

I'm still very much involved in the industry and I know what £9k buys these days too.  

I'm not a granny yet, but you're attempting to teach me to suck eggs if you've fitted three bathrooms.  

I’m not, I’m just saying it’s possible to do it with £9k to £12k. Any competent DIYer can strip and replumb a bathroom assuming there are no real changes to waste. Sourcing the supplies below ‘showroom’ price is also straightforward.

Assuming you have a competent tiler, then the desired high end finish is quite achievable.

The OP is using a company to do it.  There's certainly no mention of DIY.   Is the price reasonable for the specification?  Yes it is.  

Have you read and understood the specification? With experience of three bathrooms, I don't think you have.   We've got built in seating, niches, cisterns, lighting etc.  This room will almost go back to brick and be rebuilt from scratch as a wet room.  This is not the fittings and tiles you think it is. 

Given that just the wall-hung toilet and asociated paraphenalia will probably cost £1,000 before the skilled job of creating a structurally sound support and boxing for it (that then needs to match the integrated flush perfectly before it is tiled in permanently with appropriate attention to detail on the layout), there's a huge risk in taking a laissez-faire attitude to it.  And that's one job of many.  

Your bathroom does not look like the proposed bathroom, even without seeing the full plans.