EV.

Goudy

Alanp said:

Afaik you can be fined for running out of fuel in an ice car on a motorway , I assume if you allowed your battery to run out of charge in an e it would be the same..

Yes, you can be fined, but there is no law that specifically states you will be fined for running out of fuel (petrol, diesel or electricity), on the motorway or anywhere else.

You could be fined £100 and three points for obstructing traffic, by any means.

The highway code (rule 97) states before setting off, you must ensure you have enough fuel for your journey, especially if the journey includes motorway driving.

There are few acceptable reasons for running out, faulty gauge, undetected leak or suck in traffic due to back weather or a major disruption seem to be accepted reasons.

Playing fuel light bingo isn't but you are more likely to get a warning rather than a fine.

If you've caused an accident by obstructing the road, you could be in line for a £5000 fine and 9 points due to a charge of careless driving.

Don't forget if you do run out you haven't just put your own safety as risk, but everyone's in the car and anyone that comes out to help, so playing fuel bingo with a couple of kids in the back in rush hour on the M1 would be looked on very badly.

daivid

Goudy said:

Alanp said:

Afaik you can be fined for running out of fuel in an ice car on a motorway , I assume if you allowed your battery to run out of charge in an e it would be the same..

Yes, you can be fined, but there is no law that specifically states you will be fined for running out of fuel (petrol, diesel or electricity), on the motorway or anywhere else.

You could be fined £100 and three points for obstructing traffic, by any means.

The highway code (rule 97) states before setting off, you must ensure you have enough fuel for your journey, especially if the journey includes motorway driving.

There are few acceptable reasons for running out, faulty gauge, undetected leak or suck in traffic due to back weather or a major disruption seem to be accepted reasons.

Playing fuel light bingo isn't but you are more likely to get a warning rather than a fine.

If you've caused an accident by obstructing the road, you could be in line for a £5000 fine and 9 points due to a charge of careless driving.

Don't forget if you do run out you haven't just put your own safety as risk, but everyone's in the car and anyone that comes out to help, so playing fuel bingo with a couple of kids in the back in rush hour on the M1 would be looked on very badly.

Should, not must. Presumably 'journey' is the section rather than the whole trip, it is quite normal to set out with the intention to stop for fuel (or to charge). There are also times when fuel (or charging) may not be available for unforeseen reasons. Though I quite agree joining a motorway with minimal fuel is most irresponsible.

born_again

35har1old said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

You don't just suddenly run out of charge without warning.

They have the range remaining shown on the dash, and they go to a limp mode when they get very low.

It would be negligence (to the point of deliberate) on the part of the driver to be totally stuck on a motorway, even the M26.

So do petrol and diesel cars 6000 reported breakdowns
I believe a electric car once 0% charge has about 19 miles left. Don't no if that's day or night estimate 
M26 distance between junctions possible 18 miles 
Plus if you are not familiar with area you might make the wrong choice
I believe in limp mode it shuts down all electricial that isn't required to propel the vehicle probably the media center which takes out the sat nav not the greatest when suffering from EV charging anxiety 

Search U-Tube for Bjorn Nyland & his series of "Until the battery Died"
Every car is different. To the point some die on zero, others will go many miles after zero.

Eldi_Dos

Thanks for all the replies, could I ask if a EV stops because of low charge is there a reserve which would power hazard lights?

mgfvvc

Eldi_Dos said:

Thanks for all the replies, could I ask if a EV stops because of low charge is there a reserve which would power hazard lights?

I expect the hazard lights run off the 12v battery, not the man traction battery, so they should be OK.

Car_54

35har1old said:

Car_54 said:

35har1old said:

Eldi_Dos said:

If a EV ran out of charge on a main road ( motorway or dual carriageway)

What would be the emergency services response and would there be any consequences.

How would a breakdown service deal with it, would it be recovered to somewhere safe, or given a top up.

If you cause a obstruction on a motorway you could get points on your licence and a minimum fine of £100

What offence do you have in mind? AFAIK there are none with a minimum £100 fine.

If you cause a obstruction on a motorway it can be deemed careless driving with a on the spot fine of £100 plus points on licence
, which is differentIf it causes a accident then there's more severe penalties 

There are no “on the spot fines” in the UK. You may be offered a (conditional) fixed penalty, which is different. And normally some time after the event, not on the spot.

Ganga

When a  " battery car " dies can you still move it ,does the electric transmission allow it to be pushed ,towed etc.

born_again

Ganga said:

When a  " battery car " dies can you still move it ,does the electric transmission allow it to be pushed ,towed etc.

Yes. Within limits. Just put it in neutral.

 A EV should never be towed with drive wheels on the ground.

Don't get why a EV running out of charge is any different to any other car running out of fuel. 
Can happen to anyone if you happen to miss a turn off.
As someone mentioned 18 miles between junctions.. That is a long way when you are running on fumes. 🤣

Ganga

born_again said:

Ganga said:

When a  " battery car " dies can you still move it ,does the electric transmission allow it to be pushed ,towed etc.

Yes. Within limits. Just put it in neutral.

 A EV should never be towed with drive wheels on the ground.

Don't get why a EV running out of charge is any different to any other car running out of fuel. 
Can happen to anyone if you happen to miss a turn off.
As someone mentioned 18 miles between junctions.. That is a long way when you are running on fumes. 🤣

How do they tow it onto a flat back pick up truck ?

Herzlos

Ganga said:

born_again said:

Ganga said:

When a  " battery car " dies can you still move it ,does the electric transmission allow it to be pushed ,towed etc.

Yes. Within limits. Just put it in neutral.

 A EV should never be towed with drive wheels on the ground.

Don't get why a EV running out of charge is any different to any other car running out of fuel. 
Can happen to anyone if you happen to miss a turn off.
As someone mentioned 18 miles between junctions.. That is a long way when you are running on fumes. 🤣

How do they tow it onto a flat back pick up truck ?

slowly, and a few meters. Which isn't the same as towing it at 50mph for miles.

I'm not actually sure why you can't tow them; because it's not as if there's a differential to wind up.

Though I was under the impression that you could potentially recharge an EV by towing it due to the regenerative breaking. You'd presumably need to push it quite a distance along the hard shoulder to give it enough power to get to a charging point though.