EN1627 locks

anon_ymous

Hi

I require a euro lock given a UPVC door. I thought the only lock that's approved by insurance are those certified to TS007. Are EN1627 locks also approved? I've looked for information online but haven't been able to find much 

Thanks 

mexican_dave

My understanding of BS EN1627 is that it is a standard against forced entry (burglary etc), but it maybe insufficiently detailed to cover the specification of the lock/cylinder. So you might be asked in addition for TS007 which features a star rating system for the actual lock/cylinder, from 1, 2, 3 stars. Refer also to:
https://www.architecturalarmour.com/tech-spec/-attack-specs/en1627

DullGreyGuy

waqasahmed said:

Hi

I require a euro lock given a UPVC door. I thought the only lock that's approved by insurance are those certified to TS007. Are EN1627 locks also approved? I've looked for information online but haven't been able to find much 

Thanks 

How would we know what your insurer requires?

If your insurer requires TS007 three star then EN1627 alone isn't sufficient to confirm it is as it only considers physical attacks whereas TS007 also considers picking. 

A budget option would be something like https://www.diy.com/departments/uap-euro-cylinder-lock-3-star-kitemarked-euro-lock-cylinder-suitable-for-all-door-types-100mm-50-50-polished-chrome/5055371131292_BQ.prd or a more recognised brand less budget friendly like  https://www.diy.com/departments/yale-platinum-brass-single-euro-cylinder-lock-l-80mm/1429964_BQ.prd 

You obviously have to make sure they have the right profile (lengths) and remember that these locks have a "right way round" because the anti-snap feature is only on one side. 

anon_ymous

DullGreyGuy said:

waqasahmed said:

Hi

I require a euro lock given a UPVC door. I thought the only lock that's approved by insurance are those certified to TS007. Are EN1627 locks also approved? I've looked for information online but haven't been able to find much 

Thanks 

How would we know what your insurer requires?

If your insurer requires TS007 three star then EN1627 alone isn't sufficient to confirm it is as it only considers physical attacks whereas TS007 also considers picking. 

A budget option would be something like https://www.diy.com/departments/uap-euro-cylinder-lock-3-star-kitemarked-euro-lock-cylinder-suitable-for-all-door-types-100mm-50-50-polished-chrome/5055371131292_BQ.prd or a more recognised brand less budget friendly like  https://www.diy.com/departments/yale-platinum-brass-single-euro-cylinder-lock-l-80mm/1429964_BQ.prd 

You obviously have to make sure they have the right profile (lengths) and remember that these locks have a "right way round" because the anti-snap feature is only on one side. 

Well there's generally a universally accepted one that insurance companies require - I mean, otherwise you'd have to chop and change your locks just for changing providers

Thanks though. It does seem that TS007 three star is the better standard

Tbh, realistically a burglar is just gonna try and smash your window if they can't pick your lock so easily. Here's someone showing how to pick a euro cylinder 

https://youtu.be/lGVMAArnrlw

DullGreyGuy

waqasahmed said:

DullGreyGuy said:

waqasahmed said:

Hi

I require a euro lock given a UPVC door. I thought the only lock that's approved by insurance are those certified to TS007. Are EN1627 locks also approved? I've looked for information online but haven't been able to find much 

Thanks 

How would we know what your insurer requires?

If your insurer requires TS007 three star then EN1627 alone isn't sufficient to confirm it is as it only considers physical attacks whereas TS007 also considers picking. 

A budget option would be something like https://www.diy.com/departments/uap-euro-cylinder-lock-3-star-kitemarked-euro-lock-cylinder-suitable-for-all-door-types-100mm-50-50-polished-chrome/5055371131292_BQ.prd or a more recognised brand less budget friendly like  https://www.diy.com/departments/yale-platinum-brass-single-euro-cylinder-lock-l-80mm/1429964_BQ.prd 

You obviously have to make sure they have the right profile (lengths) and remember that these locks have a "right way round" because the anti-snap feature is only on one side. 

Well there's generally a universally accepted one that insurance companies require - I mean, otherwise you'd have to chop and change your locks just for changing providers

Thanks though. It does seem that TS007 three star is the better standard

Tbh, realistically a burglar is just gonna try and smash your window if they can't pick your lock so easily. 

For multipoint locks, which typically euro-cylinders are used in, most insurers don't specify anything. Its mortice locks that they ask if they are BS3621 or not

Most burglars aren't going to be picking your lock, unless you count bumping as lock picking. Bumping or snapping locks is much quicker and easier. Having seen videos of people using the snapping approach, they are quicker getting in than my Mrs is using her key (once she's found it)