PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.

New build reservation fee refund

Ybe
Ybe Posts: 397 Forumite
Sixth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
edited 7 February 2024 at 1:35PM in House buying, renting & selling
If cancelling a reservation on a new build after the cooling off period and the reservation agreement says that in the event of ending the agreement, up to the full amount (£500) will be retained to cover the developer’s legal, administrative and/or overhead costs, does that basically mean it’s non refundable? Since the developers can just claim that their legal, admin and overhead costs are £500. 

I note the new homes quality code suggests the reservation fee should be refunded less any deductions as detailed on the agreement which I guess is another way of saying the same thing. 
«1

Comments

  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 17,292 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    I expect it's implied that the costs ought to have been reasonably incurred.
  • Ybe
    Ybe Posts: 397 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    user1977 said:
    I expect it's implied that the costs ought to have been reasonably incurred.
    Subjective though as hard to argue against any developer who will naturally claim that the full reservation fee amount was incurred. 
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,204 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Threaten to complain under the Consumer Code if they don't refund half.

    https://consumercode.co.uk/
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Ybe
    Ybe Posts: 397 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Playing devils advocate, could they argue that the deductions are the full amount as the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so, can this be argued against? 
  • Ybe
    Ybe Posts: 397 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    The agreement also said the full fee will be refunded in the event of having to pull out for circumstances beyond your control and you let the developer know within 14 days. What does that mean? Does that mean circumstances where you have no choice but to pull out as you don’t have any option to not to even if both parties make an effort to resolve?  For example, if you lose your job or your mortgage is declined due to your finances. 
  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 17,292 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    Ybe said:
    Playing devils advocate, could they argue that the deductions are the full amount as the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so, can this be argued against? 
    Well, is it correct that the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so then it's almost certainly beyond £500. What are your own legal costs so far?
  • Ybe
    Ybe Posts: 397 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    user1977 said:
    Ybe said:
    Playing devils advocate, could they argue that the deductions are the full amount as the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so, can this be argued against? 
    Well, is it correct that the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so then it's almost certainly beyond £500. What are your own legal costs so far?
    About 1000. But due to the complexity, if I continue they’ll be adding a further £1000 
  • Ybe
    Ybe Posts: 397 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Is £250 a reasonable deduction for abortive legal costs? 
  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 17,292 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    If your own solicitor has clocked up £1000 then of course £250 is reasonable.
  • Hoenir
    Hoenir Posts: 6,658 Forumite
    1,000 Posts First Anniversary Name Dropper
    Ybe said:
    user1977 said:
    Ybe said:
    Playing devils advocate, could they argue that the deductions are the full amount as the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so, can this be argued against? 
    Well, is it correct that the conveyancing was very advanced and near exchange? If so then it's almost certainly beyond £500. What are your own legal costs so far?
    About 1000. But due to the complexity, if I continue they’ll be adding a further £1000 
    Why the complexity? 
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 349.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453K Spending & Discounts
  • 242.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 619.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.4K Life & Family
  • 255.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.