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  • bluenose1
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    That looks lovely @Organgrinder. I am making a Basa one pot curry for tea tonight, a Gousto recipe that my lot enjoy and easy to make ( my cooking criteria)
    Very interesting and sad that, just googled it, had never heard of The treachery of the Blue book. 
    I  think in general the working classes / poor from all  countries were treated terribly by the wealthy/ political leaders in general, my dad was Scottish and mum Irish so there was quite a lot of debate in our house!!!!
    Thats why I decided on French @Nebulous2 as I had learnt it in school as well, I was hopeless at it but  thought out of all the languages it would be the easiest for me. Can’t see it being of much use for holidays but I only do 10 minutes a day so not much of a commitment.
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  • Well my cookery half term continues! Tonight.....


  • Nebulous2
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    Humboldt said:
    Morning all.

    @Organgrinder the UK has such a diverse history, culture, and landscape, all of which make it a very special place.  I personally feel that it is vital we retain and embrace all that this unique country has to offer. I have the greatest admiration for you learning to speak Welsh as an adult.   An interesting fact - apparently Welsh is the oldest language in Britain and has been spoken in some form for the last 4000 years. 

    I was so pleased that you were inspired to cook a rendang, and thank you for sharing the results with us. 

    @Nebulous2 as per @bluenose1's earlier comment, learning a new language has the additional benefit of giving the brain a new challenge, so definitely worth the effort...dare I say "at our age" lol.

    @mark55man I found that book to be an interesting read.  I am in the process of reading Ultr@-Pr0cessed Pe0ple by Chr!s van Tullek£n, but finding it hard going for many reasons.  

    Today's simple pleasure - watching a robin making use of the bird bath whilst enjoying my morning cuppa.

    I agree we need to retain and embrace everything. Sadly everything is so centred around London and dare I say it the English language.

    One of the great things about speaking another language is the culture and history you learn about along the journey.

    I doubt many outside of Wales are aware of "Brad y llyfrau gleision" for example (the treachery of the blue books) or how in only a generation or two the Welsh language was lost in many families due to immigration, English only education and business owners who demanded that English be the only language within the workforce.

    These days the demand for Welsh medium education outstrips supply. Though the naysayers rubbish it's usefulness despite having no exposure to the language or the areas in which Welsh is still the majority language.

    However, I best stop as otherwise I'll end up on a political rant which will get me a ban! Annibyniaeth. Yr unig opsiwn sydd ar ôl i ni! ;-)



    I was brought up speaking a version of Scots called Doric. It was looked down on and denigrated by the establishment, literally beaten out of us at school. Many locals, for whom it is their daily language, feel obligated to modify their language in formal occasions, and worry they will be judged for using it. I've spent my life adapting my speech to suit others, compared to the rich language I use with my relatives and locals. 

    When I was at school there were two English O levels, English, and English as a foreign language. I argued at school that I should be allowed to sit English as a foreign language, as it wasn't my first language. I didn't win that argument, but hopefully it made people think. 

    There is the beginnings of a resurgence, pupils are taught it at school, and universities study and promote it. I'm not convinced however. It is still very much alive, in a diluted form, and doesn't need to become a museum piece.  
  • Nebulous2 said:
    Humboldt said:
    Morning all.

    @Organgrinder the UK has such a diverse history, culture, and landscape, all of which make it a very special place.  I personally feel that it is vital we retain and embrace all that this unique country has to offer. I have the greatest admiration for you learning to speak Welsh as an adult.   An interesting fact - apparently Welsh is the oldest language in Britain and has been spoken in some form for the last 4000 years. 

    I was so pleased that you were inspired to cook a rendang, and thank you for sharing the results with us. 

    @Nebulous2 as per @bluenose1's earlier comment, learning a new language has the additional benefit of giving the brain a new challenge, so definitely worth the effort...dare I say "at our age" lol.

    @mark55man I found that book to be an interesting read.  I am in the process of reading Ultr@-Pr0cessed Pe0ple by Chr!s van Tullek£n, but finding it hard going for many reasons.  

    Today's simple pleasure - watching a robin making use of the bird bath whilst enjoying my morning cuppa.

    I agree we need to retain and embrace everything. Sadly everything is so centred around London and dare I say it the English language.

    One of the great things about speaking another language is the culture and history you learn about along the journey.

    I doubt many outside of Wales are aware of "Brad y llyfrau gleision" for example (the treachery of the blue books) or how in only a generation or two the Welsh language was lost in many families due to immigration, English only education and business owners who demanded that English be the only language within the workforce.

    These days the demand for Welsh medium education outstrips supply. Though the naysayers rubbish it's usefulness despite having no exposure to the language or the areas in which Welsh is still the majority language.

    However, I best stop as otherwise I'll end up on a political rant which will get me a ban! Annibyniaeth. Yr unig opsiwn sydd ar ôl i ni! ;-)



    I was brought up speaking a version of Scots called Doric. It was looked down on and denigrated by the establishment, literally beaten out of us at school. Many locals, for whom it is their daily language, feel obligated to modify their language in formal occasions, and worry they will be judged for using it. I've spent my life adapting my speech to suit others, compared to the rich language I use with my relatives and locals. 

    When I was at school there were two English O levels, English, and English as a foreign language. I argued at school that I should be allowed to sit English as a foreign language, as it wasn't my first language. I didn't win that argument, but hopefully it made people think. 

    There is the beginnings of a resurgence, pupils are taught it at school, and universities study and promote it. I'm not convinced however. It is still very much alive, in a diluted form, and doesn't need to become a museum piece.  
    Another piece of history we should know about.

    It sounds very much like the Welsh not.

    I won't say much more other than hope that in time, people get to understand that language is more than a means to communicate.
  • Murphybear
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    mark55man said:
    I love rendang - its one of the dishes in the Michael Mosely low carb diet books - always goes down a treat, and that looks a fine example - its only just been breakfast and I'm already hungry
    Many years ago OH bought me a cookery book entitled “Terrific Pacific”.  Recipes from the Pacific area all over the world.  One of my favourites is their Beef Rendang.  It’s utterly gorgeous.  It’s very time consuming to make, the ingredients list takes up half the page.   :D. I make a big batch and freeze it in individual portions.  Things like that, especially curries, actually improve with freezing.  

    2 moves ago we emptied our chest freezer and found all sorts of things.  One was a homemade chicken curry, about 5 years old.  It was really lovely.  The freezer bods always say things like that should only be frozen for a short while.  Not in our house   :D
  • Humboldt
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    @Organgrinder and @Nebulous2 thank you for sharing some of your own experiences and that of your culture. It is so important that our history/culture is not forgotten.

    @Murphybear hello and welcome.  We are so lucky to have such a vast array of food choice these days. Great tip about batch cooking time consuming, but delicious recipes, and then freezing them to enjoy another time. 
  • Humboldt
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    @Murphybear thank you for taking the time to share your simple pleasures.  Finding the joy in the every day things has been proven to have a profound impact on our happiness and wellbeing. 

    Today's simple pleasure - I received my free sample of T0ny's chocolate, and very nice it was too.
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