Bosch mystery - dishwasher £ difference

Why is the Serie 4 SMV4HVX38G £499 when the comparable Serie 4 SMV4HAX40G is substantially more at £629?

£499 https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-series-4-smv4hvx38g-fully-integrated-dishwasher/p6212837

£629
https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-series-4-smv4hax40g-fully-integrated-dishwasher/p5558556

Can anyone shed light on whether I am missing out by buying the cheaper model??

Yes dishwashers are a luxury 🫣 but it is definitely an integrated Bosch Serie 4 we are after. 

Thanks MSE sleuths
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  • MattMattMattUK
    MattMattMattUK Posts: 8,209
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    Nothing I can see, they look identical spec wise apart from a .2kg weight difference and from the pictures a slight difference in internal shelves.
  • Emmia
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    Why is the Serie 4 SMV4HVX38G £499 when the comparable Serie 4 SMV4HAX40G is substantially more at £629?

    £499 https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-series-4-smv4hvx38g-fully-integrated-dishwasher/p6212837

    £629
    https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-series-4-smv4hax40g-fully-integrated-dishwasher/p5558556

    Can anyone shed light on whether I am missing out by buying the cheaper model??

    Yes dishwashers are a luxury 🫣 but it is definitely an integrated Bosch Serie 4 we are after. 

    Thanks MSE sleuths
    Of those two, I'd go for the cheaper one, as it has a cutlery/utensil tray at the top - not having a cutlery basket means there's more space for pans, plates etc.

    I've got a slimline Bosch at the moment, which replaced a full size Bosch, both hold about the same but the key difference is the slimline has a top cutlery drawer and the full size a basket at the bottom.

  • EssexExile
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    The first one is similar to my Bosch, which is made in Spain. I suspect the dearer one is a real Bosch made in Germany.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • Wes121708
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    Not sure but we have the first one and wouldn't even consider getting one in the future now without a tray! Hate cutlery baskets!
  • Yorkie1
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    The cheaper one is 6 cm taller, apparently - I assume to fit in the full width cutlery tray. This restricts a little the maximum height of items you put in the top shelf. If the one with a cutlery basket is like mine, the basket can move left to right along that front half of the lower shelf, to provide some flexibility in its location.

    It looks as though there are slight differences on the top shelf regarding bits that can fold flat (the darker bits fold, usually, in Bosch). The cheaper one has a longer eco cycle. 

    There appear to be slight differences between the programmes available - although that might just be down to available space on the web page. 

    I agonised between dishwashers with the full width cutlery tray or basket - and in the end chose the basket because I wanted the height available. But your choices may be different!
  • waitpatiently
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    Thanks @MattMattMattUK @Emmia @EssexExile - after further digging, the variation is down to the different rack arrangement (less is more apparently) and the country of manufacture (Poland cheap, Germany costlier). Not entirely sure it warrants such a price difference but there you go.
  • waitpatiently
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    Yorkie1 said:
    The cheaper one is 6 cm taller, apparently ….
    I agonised between dishwashers with the full width cutlery tray or basket - and in the end chose the basket because I wanted the height available. But your choices may be different!
    Ah perfect answer! It feels like I am over-deliberating about appliances but clearly others do too. Thanks for checking it out and your help.
  • EssexExile
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    Yorkie1 said:
    The cheaper one is 6 cm taller, apparently ….
    I agonised between dishwashers with the full width cutlery tray or basket - and in the end chose the basket because I wanted the height available. But your choices may be different!
    Ah perfect answer! It feels like I am over-deliberating about appliances but clearly others do too. Thanks for checking it out and your help.
    According to the Bosch site they are the same size, which is what I would suspect - all full sized dishwashers are the same size. My Bosch with the tray is the same size as my old Hotpoint without one.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • Rodders53
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    One made in Poland, the other Germany.
    One with a cutlery tray, one with basket.
    One (cheaper one) with plastic tub, the other with Stainless Steel tub. *

    * according to the Marks Electrical spec pages.

    The tub material and German made may sway some buyers?
  • Albermarle
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    Might be as simple as they are overstocked with one of them, so they drop the price of that one and leave the other at full price.
    You buy the cheap one and think you have got a bargain, which may or may not be true.
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