Car insurance premium increases

I've just had a renewal quote and some price comparison figures for an upcoming car insurance renewal and despite no changes to my status, as most people are finding, there's quite a significant price increase on last year. The insurance companies are making a big point of this being due to inflation and rising repair costs, but my question is why aren't these passed on to the premiums of those who actually make the claims rather than everyone else?! 
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  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 21,586 Forumite
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    Those that claim will have a bigger increase in their premiums  than those who don't.

    Insurance works by everyone paying into the pot and some claiming from it.  Those who don't claim subsidise the
    clams of those who do.

    That's the way all insurance works.
     
  • EssexExile
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    If only we knew who was going to make a claim in the upcoming year.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • Aretnap
    Aretnap Posts: 5,659 Forumite
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    It would rather defeat the point of insurance if only people who made claims contributed to the costs of those claims 
  • MikeJXE
    MikeJXE Posts: 3,839 Forumite
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    I have just increased mine but not a renewal as I am over their age restriction 

    Last year mine was £803

    This year £884 but includes £250 free towards excess and RAC roadside so I'm happy 
  • facade
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    I just renewed mine today.
    Esure wanted £211, up from £136.

    Going through the Meerkats prices range from £131 to £800!!

    Ignoring the outliers, there was a group at £165, which I thought was fair, so I phoned ESure, and their call centre in India wouldn't come down even a penny, so I jumped ship to Aviva.


    Now I'm wondering if I should have used the live chat rather than phoned a call centre.


    Have to say I wasn't impressed by the Aviva sign-up process via the Meerkats, there is no way to check if the Meerkats forwarded all my details correctly, I suspect they will have not communicated Something Important, and it will cost me another £50 to get it put right.....
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • Nobbie1967
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    Alanmelon said:
    I've just had a renewal quote and some price comparison figures for an upcoming car insurance renewal and despite no changes to my status, as most people are finding, there's quite a significant price increase on last year. The insurance companies are making a big point of this being due to inflation and rising repair costs, but my question is why aren't these passed on to the premiums of those who actually make the claims rather than everyone else?! 
    Because everyone is at risk of making a claim. Insurance is priced based of how statistically likely you are to have a claim and how much this will cost. Even if your risk remains the same, if the costs escalate the insurance will be more expensive.
  • user1977
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    Alanmelon said:

     my question is why aren't these passed on to the premiums of those who actually make the claims rather than everyone else?! 
    Because if you have to pay back anything you claim, what would be the point of insurance? Have a think about it.
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 17,179 Forumite
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    user1977 said:
    Alanmelon said:

     my question is why aren't these passed on to the premiums of those who actually make the claims rather than everyone else?! 
    Because if you have to pay back anything you claim, what would be the point of insurance? Have a think about it.
    And last years claims had to be paid with money the insurer had last year... this years premiums are for this years losses. Whilst those that have made one claim are more likely to make another one a large proportion of those that make a claim in any given year are those that haven't claimed in the last 5 years. 

    So you load those that have had claims more than those that haven't but everyone has to cover the cost of increased claims costs as anyone can be the victim of a hit and run or theft claim etc
  • I've just reinsured one of mine today.

    2022 - £159
    Last year - £166
    Renewal - £364
    New insurer - £188
  • I've just renewed mine (now 21 years since my last claim), last year premium was £245, this years best deal I could get is £385 and that's staying with same insurer. That's a 57% increase. 
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