Meter Expired

Bunney225

Hi I have avoided having a Smart Meter for many years. My energy company Utility Warehouse is now telling me that my meter has now ‘expired’ and needs replacing. I am sure they will use this to install a smart meter. Is there anything I can do?

Any help advice appreciated.

MeteredOut

Bunney225 said:

Hi I have avoided having a Smart Meter for many years. My energy company Utility Warehouse is now telling me that my meter has now ‘expired’ and needs replacing. I am sure they will use this to install a smart meter. Is there anything I can do?

Any help advice appreciated.

Short answer: No

If the meter has expired, they can replace it with whatever meter they want. Well, probably not a banana, but I'm sure you know what I mean.

If you don't want a smart meter (please feel to let us know why), then just stick the In Home Display in a drawer when they install the smart meter, and continually to manually submit readings as you do now (in addition to what the smart meter should send them).

powerful_Rogue

Bunney225 said:

Hi I have avoided having a Smart Meter for many years. My energy company Utility Warehouse is now telling me that my their meter has now ‘expired’ and needs replacing. I am sure they will use this to install a smart meter. Is there anything I can do?

Any help advice appreciated.

Slight correction to your original post.

SAC2334

It will pay you to get a smart meter asap and then switch to Octopus then go on their Tracker rate..I have been paying for the last five days approx 3.83 pence a kWh for gas and on average 16 pence a kWh for electric .I m guessing you would have been paying 7.8 p kWh gas and 27 p kWh electric.
Do the maths comparing how much cheaper you can get your energy with a smart meter .Don't complain about them ..grab one asap .or better still switch to Octopus and collect £50 referral fee and get them to fit the smart meter they prefer .
You can only go on the Tracker with smart meters 

MultiFuelBurner

SAC2334 said:

It will pay you to get a smart meter asap and then switch to Octopus then go on their Tracker rate..I have been paying for the last five days approx 3.83 pence a kWh for gas and on average 16 pence a kWh for electric .I m guessing you would have been paying 7.8 p kWh gas and 27 p kWh electric.
Do the maths comparing how much cheaper you can get your energy with a smart meter .Don't complain about them ..grab one asap .or better still switch to Octopus and collect £50 referral fee and get them to fit the smart meter they prefer .
You can only go on the Tracker with smart meters 

Remembering that any new tracker customers won't be on the same formula than you. They will be on the more expensive tracker formula and that can add up to 4p per kWh on electricity as an example depending on their region.

Spoonie_Turtle

Yes, Tracker is a good suggestion but not one anyone should take up without finding out what they're signing up for.  Which has always been the case to some extent, but definitely required now they've changed the formula.

SAC2334

MultiFuelBurner said:

SAC2334 said:

It will pay you to get a smart meter asap and then switch to Octopus then go on their Tracker rate..I have been paying for the last five days approx 3.83 pence a kWh for gas and on average 16 pence a kWh for electric .I m guessing you would have been paying 7.8 p kWh gas and 27 p kWh electric.
Do the maths comparing how much cheaper you can get your energy with a smart meter .Don't complain about them ..grab one asap .or better still switch to Octopus and collect £50 referral fee and get them to fit the smart meter they prefer .
You can only go on the Tracker with smart meters 

Remembering that any new tracker customers won't be on the same formula than you. They will be on the more expensive tracker formula and that can add up to 4p per kWh on electricity as an example depending on their region.

We will all be on Dec 23 rates probably by the time he gets switched and his smart meters fitted and we will all still think its brilliant and we will all be on it and happy to be on it  with just an approx 8% gas rise and 11% electric rise. I certainly will 
Tomorrows rates for gas (Yorks area )  Nov 22 is  3.71 p/kwh 
                           electric 14 .57 p/kwh on Nov 22 
Dec 23 rates            gas is 4.08 p/kwh ( 0.37 p/kwh more than Nov 22  )
                              electric 16.66p/kwh  ( 2.09p p/kwh more than Nov 22) 
               

EssexHebridean

Hey OP, you’ve already had the situation with the change of meter explained. Can we ask though, what are your concerns about having smart meters? It’s often the case that fears around them are based either on “fake news” (for example the suggestion that someone will be able to hack into the meter and tell when you are in or out in order to break in to the property) or indeed “old news” (that the meter will only be smart until you change suppliers then it’ll revert back to being just like your existing one. (This used to be true of the older type SMETS1 meters but the ones they fit now are SMETS2 and should stay fully smart. If you could elaborate on your concerns it may well be that we could put your mind at rest. 

MultiFuelBurner

SAC2334 said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

SAC2334 said:

It will pay you to get a smart meter asap and then switch to Octopus then go on their Tracker rate..I have been paying for the last five days approx 3.83 pence a kWh for gas and on average 16 pence a kWh for electric .I m guessing you would have been paying 7.8 p kWh gas and 27 p kWh electric.
Do the maths comparing how much cheaper you can get your energy with a smart meter .Don't complain about them ..grab one asap .or better still switch to Octopus and collect £50 referral fee and get them to fit the smart meter they prefer .
You can only go on the Tracker with smart meters 

Remembering that any new tracker customers won't be on the same formula than you. They will be on the more expensive tracker formula and that can add up to 4p per kWh on electricity as an example depending on their region.

We will all be on Dec 23 rates probably by the time he gets switched and his smart meters fitted and we will all still think its brilliant and we will all be on it and happy to be on it  with just an approx 8% gas rise and 11% electric rise. I certainly will 
Tomorrows rates for gas (Yorks area )  Nov 22 is  3.71 p/kwh 
                           electric 14 .57 p/kwh on Nov 22 
Dec 23 rates            gas is 4.08 p/kwh ( 0.37 p/kwh more than Nov 22  )
                              electric 16.66p/kwh  ( 2.09p p/kwh more than Nov 22) 
               

As stated on other posts Yorks is the anomaly along with a few other areas which have not been hit with bigger network running costs.

So it's just caution for anyone moving to tracker and it should always be looked into fully and we cannot band the old rates around anymore as the type of savings to be made.

Check out London as an example. 


It may be we ask the OP each time, what region are you in....ah tracker may be good for you because of x,y,z and you are in a region with a reduced tracker formula etc etc etc

What we have to also consider is electricity for example.under the price cap may well be heading down to 22/21p kWh in the next two price cap periods (gas 5.5p) and that then changes the picture even more and tracker for certain regions actually becomes the potentially expensive choice.

It will then be down to us on tracker and people that have been on it a long time to warn of checking prices regularly, it will not necessarily be the best tariff for many without low risk anymore (time will tell)

All fun but we have responsibilities here to point out the good and bad and the warnings.

Qyburn

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Yes, Tracker is a good suggestion but not one anyone should take up without finding out what they're signing up for.  Which has always been the case to some extent, but definitely required now they've changed the formula.

I agree, it's concerning to see it so often recommended as a sure fire way to save money. 

SAC2334

LOL , well its been big surefire  saving for you for every day for the last 380 days on the trot .you switched same time as me early last January .Its not at all "concerning " and I don t see why you should be "concerned " .  .end of the day its no problem to return to flexible if it go s tits up .
Energy forum is not an advice forum its a discussion forum based on money saving .