PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum. This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are - or become - political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
We're aware that dates on the Forum are not currently showing correctly. Please bear with us while we get this fixed, and see Site feedback for updates.
New House Covenant - Motorhome
Comments
-
ThisIsWeird said:I suspect a different aspect here is the reference to a possibly-ongoing 'management company', as S62 points out.
In practice, very often such restrictive covenants are put there by the developer as a 'keep it tidy' clause, until the development is completed. After this point, it's comes down to how active they wish to remain involved - often not at all.
I have witnessed an actual example of this in a local Persimmons dev where the in-laws bought a bungie some 25 years ago. Their neighb moved, and the new prospective buyers asked if a caravan could be stored on their front drive. The deeds said 'no', the sellers said 'no', their potential new neighb's said 'no', but they bought anyway, and parked their mother-of-all-caravans there. Cue annoyed neighb's, including mil (snigger).
The thing is, nothing could be done about it. Persimm not bothered, Legal Protection wouldn't entertain taking such such action, so the restrictive covenant was effectively moot - nothing could be done to stop them.
Except, an owner on the estate - a self-appointed 'manager' - made it clear that they'd be upsetting lots of folks, so really very silly to carry on. That worked - they parked off-site due to peer pressure.
In your case, there are two interesting aspects. One is that there may be a management co. running the joint, and they may be able to enforce the deeds. Wanna risk serious litigation? Stick yer 'home on the drive, and refuse to move it
But the other interesting aspect is the 'visible' part. Blimey. So, if you were to construct a screening panel to be mounted in front of her 'home, it wouldn't be 'visible'?1 -
One day, a recently-moved-in cove working at local window co started to park his company 'van' outside their home. This sizeable vehicle narrowed the entrance to the estate, was an eyesore, and also became the main view for a couple of their neighb's. Oooooh, trouble ensued, but it didn't actually affect sil, tho' she could appreciate how unreasonable his actions were.
It took one hell of a lot of doing before he was obliged to leave his van at work, and use his car to commute. The management company were very slow, and reluctant, to act.I think probably working vans are more of a grey area, as someone could say I need it there overnight for my job, and I have a right to work. For example if they were a one man band plumber.
Could cause issues if some curtain twitcher was getting shirty, because an honest tradesman was just trying to make a living.
0 -
Albermarle said:One day, a recently-moved-in cove working at local window co started to park his company 'van' outside their home. This sizeable vehicle narrowed the entrance to the estate, was an eyesore, and also became the main view for a couple of their neighb's. Oooooh, trouble ensued, but it didn't actually affect sil, tho' she could appreciate how unreasonable his actions were.
It took one hell of a lot of doing before he was obliged to leave his van at work, and use his car to commute. The management company were very slow, and reluctant, to act.I think probably working vans are more of a grey area, as someone could say I need it there overnight for my job, and I have a right to work. For example if they were a one man band plumber
1 -
That clause doesn't specifically mention motorhomes. Also some motorhomes are very small (Renault Kangoo?) and some are as large as a bus. Too many variables without seeing the actual motorhome and where it's parked to give an opinion but assuming it isn't a massive bus and isn't going to block light/access for neighbours I'd just park it and see if anything is said (whilst having a plan B if it is an issue).
1 -
NameUnavailable said:That clause doesn't specifically mention motorhomes. Also some motorhomes are very small (Renault Kangoo?) and some are as large as a bus. Too many variables without seeing the actual motorhome and where it's parked to give an opinion but assuming it isn't a massive bus and isn't going to block light/access for neighbours I'd just park it and see if anything is said (whilst having a plan B if it is an issue).In what way is a motorhome not a similar type of vehicle to a "light goods vehicle" or "caravan" ?Motorhomes don't need to be mentioned specifically because the "similar type" covers it.'Light goods vehicles' include car-derived vans (e.g. Kangoo sized), so it can't really be argued that the covenant was only intended to restrict larger motorhomes.0
-
Section62 said:NameUnavailable said:That clause doesn't specifically mention motorhomes. Also some motorhomes are very small (Renault Kangoo?) and some are as large as a bus. Too many variables without seeing the actual motorhome and where it's parked to give an opinion but assuming it isn't a massive bus and isn't going to block light/access for neighbours I'd just park it and see if anything is said (whilst having a plan B if it is an issue).In what way is a motorhome not a similar type of vehicle to a "light goods vehicle" or "caravan" ?Motorhomes don't need to be mentioned specifically because the "similar type" covers it.'Light goods vehicles' include car-derived vans (e.g. Kangoo sized), so it can't really be argued that the covenant was only intended to restrict larger motorhomes.
Incidentally the Renault Kangoo is a purpose built van so clearly fits the light goods vehicle category.If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales0 -
I’d wonder what they’d make of my vehicles - a Peugeot Partner car (shoebox on wheels) and a Peugeot Expert Independence (Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle) which is far bigger but needed to accommodate the family and my mobility stuff.
0 -
Bonniepurple said:I’d wonder what they’d make of my vehicles - a Peugeot Partner car (shoebox on wheels) and a Peugeot Expert Independence (Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle) which is far bigger but needed to accommodate the family and my mobility stuff.If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales1
-
lincroft1710 said:
Incidentally the Renault Kangoo is a purpose built van so clearly fits the light goods vehicle category.If you go with DVLA status it could depend on how it became a camper.If it started out as a Kangoo panel van (originally no windows in the back) that was converted into camper then it'll probably be registered with the DVLA as a van - i.e. N1 light goods vehicle.However, if it started as a passenger Kangoo - i.e. with rear passenger seats and windows all round - it's probably registered with the DVLA as a "car" (M1).Many van based MPVs (e.g. VW Caddy) are M1 "car" if they came out of the factory with rear passenger seats and windows all round.0 -
bobster2 said:lincroft1710 said:
Incidentally the Renault Kangoo is a purpose built van so clearly fits the light goods vehicle category.If you go with DVLA status it could depend on how it became a camper.If it started out as a Kangoo panel van (originally no windows in the back) that was converted into camper then it'll probably be registered with the DVLA as a van - i.e. N1 light goods vehicle.However, if it started as a passenger Kangoo - i.e. with rear passenger seats and windows all round - it's probably registered with the DVLA as a "car" (M1).Many van based MPVs (e.g. VW Caddy) are M1 "car" if they came out of the factory with rear passenger seats and windows all round.If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales0
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply

Categories
- All Categories
- 348.4K Banking & Borrowing
- 252.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 452.5K Spending & Discounts
- 241K Work, Benefits & Business
- 617.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 175.7K Life & Family
- 254.2K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards