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new style ESA claim

Hello'

I would welcome advice before claiming for new style ESA.


For more than 15 years I have been self-employed(sole trader) in property rentals. Since 2019 my health has not been good. I've been unable to work. I was going to make a claim for new style ESA. 

My income for the passed 3 years have been very low and I've been living off my savings. But I now have less that 3k savings.


I have 3 properties rented out currently.

Property 1 rental income £550.00 pcm with no Mortgage but  Insurance cost £16.72 monthly

Property 2 rental income £600.00 pcm Mortgage payment £453.58 and Insurance £33.01

Property 3 rental income £425.58 pcm  Mortgage payment £522.10 and Insurance £21.14


Grand Total Monthly earning £528.40


From that £528.40 have and to live on. I pay my own home Mortgage and all other living costs.


From what I understand I can make a claim for new style ESA. But I'm not sure about my  Property 1 having no Mortgage and how it may affect any claim?


Help and advice welcome?

Comments

  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,947 Forumite
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    Disclaimer: I have absolutely no idea how rental income is treated for ns-ESA.

    Have you paid any class 2 National Insurance contributions in the past 3 years?  You can only claim ESA payments if you have enough recent NI contributions or credits https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/employment-and-support-allowance-contribution-based
  • Yes' I  have paid National Insurance contributions every year.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,947 Forumite
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    denjim said:
    Yes' I  have paid National Insurance contributions every year.
    Were they class 2?  (Class 3 voluntary contributions don't count towards ESA.)

    If yes, then hopefully others will be able to advise about the rental income and whether you can claim ESA.
  • huckster
    huckster Posts: 5,560 Forumite
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    edited 18 January 2024 at 7:24AM
    Rental income is seen as capital, savings and investments, so not considered income when calculating benefit awards.


    The comments I post are personal opinion. Always refer to official information sources before relying on internet forums. If you have a problem with any organisation, enter into their official complaints process at the earliest opportunity, as sometimes complaints have to be started within a certain time frame.
  • Newcad
    Newcad Posts: 2,003 Forumite
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    edited 18 January 2024 at 1:17PM
    In any case NS ESA is a Contribution Based benefit and so current income or capital is irrelevant.
    (Apart from income from a Pension).
    So this situation is just a question of eligibility, ie whether the correct class of NI was paid/credited in the relevent Tax years.
    If that's uncertain then bang in a claim anyway and let the DWP check the NI situation.
    Remember that when ESA is claimed you will have to provide Fit-Notes to support the claim, and keep providing them until you have had a Work Capability Assessment and subsequent decision.
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