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Equalisation for funds generating interest?
aroominyork
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I have some funds in a GIA which I want to put into a money market fund (Royal London short term). The Inc. version pays interest twice a year. How is this treated for tax purposes? Is the first payment divided into taxable income for the period since purchase and non-taxable equalisation for the period before purchase, similar to dividends in an equity fund?
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You will buy Group 2 units and these will contain accrued income in their purchase price. The distributions from Group 2 units contain equalisation (return of the capital premium you paid for the accrued income) and interest. Once the first distribution is received, Group 2 units become Group 1 units and further distributions are all interest. It's the same as for dividends as it is a feature of the fund structure rather than what is held within.
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Thanks. And the credit on the first distribution will be split, on my GIA statement, into equalisation and interest?masonic said:You will buy Group 2 units and these will contain accrued income in their purchase price. The distributions from Group 2 units contain equalisation (return of the capital premium you paid for the accrued income) and interest. Once the first distribution is received, Group 2 units become Group 1 units and further distributions are all interest. It's the same as for dividends as it is a feature of the fund structure rather than what is held within.0 -
You have not said which platform you are using. The Consolidated Tax Certificate should split the payment into interest and equalisation. If you have a Vanguard account, you get the equalisation rate for Group 2 units when the dividend is paid under Transactions > Corporate actions. You then multiply the number of Group 2 units that you hold by the equalisation rate to get the equalisation. That is a lot quicker than waiting for the Consolidated Tax Certificate.aroominyork said:
Thanks. And the credit on the first distribution will be split, on my GIA statement, into equalisation and interest?masonic said:You will buy Group 2 units and these will contain accrued income in their purchase price. The distributions from Group 2 units contain equalisation (return of the capital premium you paid for the accrued income) and interest. Once the first distribution is received, Group 2 units become Group 1 units and further distributions are all interest. It's the same as for dividends as it is a feature of the fund structure rather than what is held within.
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Interactive Investor.
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Although my experience is not recent and things may have improved in recent years, I remember having quite a nightmare getting the right information out of Interactive Investor regarding Group 2 units and equalisation, so much so that it eventually came via the Financial Ombudsman Service.aroominyork said:Interactive Investor.
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For Inc. equities on ii, the transaction statement shows different credits for equalisation and dividend. No reason this should be any different, is there?0
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I wouldn't have thought so. Hopefully in your case it will be correctaroominyork said:For Inc. equities on ii, the transaction statement shows different credits for equalisation and dividend. No reason this should be any different, is there?
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If it is tax sheltered account, the equalisation does not matter. If it is not, why do you not use low coupon gilts (e.g.TG31), which are more favourably taxed than bond funds.aroominyork said:Interactive Investor.
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It is unsheltered and for funds from a gilt which is about to mature. The MM fund yields more so I'll use that up to PSA and a nominal gilt beyond. I am aware that when the base rate falls so will the MM yield.GeoffTF said:
If it is tax sheltered account, the equalisation does not matter. If it is not, why do you not use low coupon gilts (e.g.TG31), which are more favourably taxed than bond funds.aroominyork said:Interactive Investor.0 -
A money market fund will have a higher YTM, but probably not for long. VAGP had a YTM 3.8% on 30 November 2023, with 0.1% OCF, plus transaction costs which will include the cost of hedging:aroominyork said:
It is unsheltered and for funds from a gilt which is about to mature. The MM fund yields more so I'll use that up to PSA and a nominal gilt beyond. I am aware that when the base rate falls so will the MM yield.GeoffTF said:
If it is tax sheltered account, the equalisation does not matter. If it is not, why do you not use low coupon gilts (e.g.TG31), which are more favourably taxed than bond funds.aroominyork said:Interactive Investor.
https://www.vanguard.co.uk/professional/product/etf/bond/9442/global-aggregate-bond-ucits-etf-gbp-hedged-distributing
Currently TG31 has redemption yield of 3.69%:
https://www.yieldgimp.com/gilt-yields
You can get official historical yields from Tradeweb to do a comparison the same day. The gilt and VAGP are both AA-. so we would not expect the YTMs to be much different. Tax and costs may be more important here, depending on your circumstances.
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