first year of employment - instant dismissal

Marvel1

As the policy is on her name and not registered keeper, cancel it first thing tomorrow (to protect herself), seems dodgy to me asking not to cancel - leave them with a possible uninsured vehicle - not her problem.

Marcon

maxmycardagain said:

Marcon said:

maxmycardagain said:

she has been treated badly

How do you know? Remember that she's unlikely to have told both sides of the story...

In this instance im happy to take her word for it, ive also heard a voice recording where she was praised for her work then told the boss wanted to sack her.... figure that out

after being sacked she had emails telling her not to contact, or reply to contact any of her clients 

Nothing uncommon about either of those things.

Of course she shouldn't be in contact with clients after being sacked - why is that even worthy of a mention?

Clearly things didn't work out for whatever reason. A bit of friendly support works wonders at times like this - there's unlikely to be much else you can do.

GrumpyDil

maxmycardagain said:

GrumpyDil said:

Won't comment on the employment issue but who owns the company car? Seems odd that she would have a company car but insured by herself. My view would be as long as she isn't the registered keeper/owner cancel the insurance as otherwise she runs the risk of any claims impacting her NCB etc. 

the company had never bought a car for an employee, they were the V5 regd keeper though it stayed with the employee she was bullied into getting rid of her own car as it wasnt seen to fit the image of the company, so she lost out on a perfectly good car and the company car was purchased, the company had her get a policy instead of them ......why i dont know, best of it is the boss drove it off without being on the policy!

Boss might have his own cover but as above if the company are the registered keeper and owner then cancel insurance and leave them to deal with the car. 

Dakta

Sounds a bit crazy, for best advice I'd probably suggest a write up of the whole situation because the company sounds a bit of a mess.

The last bit is important, because of the company is a mess, the employee is best away from it because you can't polish a turd. My very limited advice here is to look at the positives, the employee isn't there any more and they can't give them any more crap. 

with regards to notice - yes, you can fundamentally dismiss a person within two years with little protection, however notice must be paid if not gross misconduct etc. Exceptions to this are where there's discrimination against a protected characteristic, because that may be against the law - it doesn't mean you can't sack people who are in this category but it must follow a process.

Regarding posting on here when you get advice from ACAS, ACAS are actually not that further from this forum - it's a bunch of advisors. From posted job ads they do not appear to have specific qualification requirements with regards to employment and training appears to be an internal 9 week course.  It's never wrong to aggregate opinion, as long as you can take it all for what it's worth - which often isn't much. The sifting is down to you but there's nothing wrong with gathering opinion and working through it, and asking on here is a great way to find people who have been through the mill. 

Nothing will replace legal advice, but if you're ringing the ACAS helpline it's unlikely you're getting legal advice anyway. And it helps to pool thoughts about where to go with requesting legal advice.

Undervalued

maxmycardagain said:

Marcon said:

maxmycardagain said:

she has been treated badly

How do you know? Remember that she's unlikely to have told both sides of the story...

In this instance im happy to take her word for it, ive also heard a voice recording where she was praised for her work then told the boss wanted to sack her.... figure that out

after being sacked she had emails telling her not to contact, or reply to contact any of her clients 

Which is perfectly normal and reasonable.

74jax

Cancel the insurance. Any refund of premium received pay back to the company if they paid for the policy. 

Make sure any notice payment is paid together with any holiday payments due. 

Offer help with looking for other work. 

Other than that, it's really not worth your clear frustration. She wasn't suitable for the role and they didn't want her. Help her find another role. 

maxmycardagain

Undervalued said:

maxmycardagain said:

Marcon said:

maxmycardagain said:

she has been treated badly

How do you know? Remember that she's unlikely to have told both sides of the story...

In this instance im happy to take her word for it, ive also heard a voice recording where she was praised for her work then told the boss wanted to sack her.... figure that out

after being sacked she had emails telling her not to contact, or reply to contact any of her clients 

Which is perfectly normal and reasonable.

Undervalued said:

maxmycardagain said:

Marcon said:

maxmycardagain said:

she has been treated badly

How do you know? Remember that she's unlikely to have told both sides of the story...

In this instance im happy to take her word for it, ive also heard a voice recording where she was praised for her work then told the boss wanted to sack her.... figure that out

after being sacked she had emails telling her not to contact, or reply to contact any of her clients 

Which is perfectly normal and reasonable.

Prior to being dismissed, whilst at a client call, she was told if she "ever wanted a job there was one there for her"

he employment contract stipulates she "may not worth with any client for two year from the leaving date"....

bet that includes "work FOR..."

Hoenir

maxmycardagain said:

Undervalued said:

maxmycardagain said:

Marcon said:

maxmycardagain said:

she has been treated badly

How do you know? Remember that she's unlikely to have told both sides of the story...

In this instance im happy to take her word for it, ive also heard a voice recording where she was praised for her work then told the boss wanted to sack her.... figure that out

after being sacked she had emails telling her not to contact, or reply to contact any of her clients 

Which is perfectly normal and reasonable.

Undervalued said:

maxmycardagain said:

Marcon said:

maxmycardagain said:

she has been treated badly

How do you know? Remember that she's unlikely to have told both sides of the story...

In this instance im happy to take her word for it, ive also heard a voice recording where she was praised for her work then told the boss wanted to sack her.... figure that out

after being sacked she had emails telling her not to contact, or reply to contact any of her clients 

Which is perfectly normal and reasonable.

Prior to being dismissed, whilst at a client call, she was told if she "ever wanted a job there was one there for her"

he employment contract stipulates she "may not worth with any client for two year from the leaving date"....

bet that includes "work FOR..."

Ensure that all due wages are paid prior to stirring the hornet's nest further. Two years is an unreasonable length of time.

Cancel the insurance buy don't mention it to the employer. 

More than likely the employer is in financial difficulty. Employees are expendable in such circumstances. Easy to take matters personally when in reality there's far more going on. 

Marcon

Hoenir said:

Cancel the insurance buy don't mention it to the employer. 

There are an awful lot of people confidently asserting that cancelling the insurance is the way to go, without stopping to consider it may not be that black and white.

How about suggesting reading the small print of the employment contract first, in case payment of the insurance premium by the employer came with certain conditions...? The person posting here isn't the individual who has been sacked, and is unlikely to have had access to the relevant documents, so making sweeping assumptions could be somewhat unwise.

BoGoF

Marcon said:

Hoenir said:

Cancel the insurance buy don't mention it to the employer. 

There are an awful lot of people confidently asserting that cancelling the insurance is the way to go, without stopping to consider it may not be that black and white.

How about suggesting reading the small print of the employment contract first, in case payment of the insurance premium by the employer came with certain conditions...? The person posting here isn't the individual who has been sacked, and is unlikely to have had access to the relevant documents, so making sweeping assumptions could be somewhat unwise.

The person has no insurable interest in the vehicle regardless of who paid it. I'm sure if they contacted the insurance company and explained what has happened they would cancel it as they (insurance co) could still be liable if it was in an accident.