We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum. This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are - or become - political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Gap insurance help

I brought a car in 2021 from Arnold Clark and I used my old car which was on finance at the time the part ex value was less than my settlement value but I paid the difference am I entitled to the full price of the vehicle before the part ex as I paid the difference or am I only entitled to the price after the part ex 
«1

Comments

  • Brie
    Brie Posts: 12,821 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    The exchange is part of what you paid for the car so it's the price agreed.  
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe and Old Style Money Saving boards.  If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.

    "Never retract, never explain, never apologise; get things done and let them howl.”  Nellie McClung
  • reggi2022
    reggi2022 Posts: 9 Forumite
    10 Posts Photogenic
    edited 12 January at 2:24PM
    Brie said:
    The exchange is part of what you paid for the car so it's the price agreed.  
    (Removed by Forum Team) So that should be to the full price? 
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 14,790 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    reggi2022 said:
    I brought a car in 2021 from Arnold Clark and I used my old car which was on finance at the time the part ex value was less than my settlement value but I paid the difference am I entitled to the full price of the vehicle before the part ex as I paid the difference or am I only entitled to the price after the part ex 
    Your missing part of the story... presumably you car has now been written off? Did you buy RTI GAP?

    Assuming the above is correct then you get the invoice price, your PX was a form of payment towards the invoice, it didn't reduce the invoice itself. 
  • CliveOfIndia
    CliveOfIndia Posts: 1,988 Forumite
    1,000 Posts First Anniversary Name Dropper
    reggi2022 said:

    So that should be to the full price? 
    Correct - £11,732 (obviously the £30 RFL wouldn't be covered).

    You might want to delete that picture and re-post it with your personal details obscured

  • Dave_5150
    Dave_5150 Posts: 265 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts
    Depends on what GAP the product you have is for. If it is RTI then how you funded the vehicle is irrelevant as per the post above. If the GAP is to cover your finance agreement then that is what will be paid.
  • reggi2022
    reggi2022 Posts: 9 Forumite
    10 Posts Photogenic
    reggi2022 said:
    I brought a car in 2021 from Arnold Clark and I used my old car which was on finance at the time the part ex value was less than my settlement value but I paid the difference am I entitled to the full price of the vehicle before the part ex as I paid the difference or am I only entitled to the price after the part ex 
    Your missing part of the story... presumably you car has now been written off? Did you buy RTI GAP?

    Assuming the above is correct then you get the invoice price, your PX was a form of payment towards the invoice, it didn't reduce the invoice itself. 
    Yes the car is written off and all outstanding money is paid off to my finance company and I was left with roughly £1800 from my car insurance. I have RTI cover from my GAP insurance I was just under the impression that I would receive the difference from what my car insurance company have paid to the value of the car before I part exd which is roughly £16000
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 14,790 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    You will receive the difference between the valuation of your insurer (ie amount paid to finance + amount paid to you + excess (some GAP policies cover some of the excess depending on a cap)) and the original invoice price of what you paid for the car (potentially minus a few extras like car tax)

    This feels like its going to be one of those painful slow drip feed of information until we finally get to the real question.
  • reggi2022
    reggi2022 Posts: 9 Forumite
    10 Posts Photogenic
    You will receive the difference between the valuation of your insurer (ie amount paid to finance + amount paid to you + excess (some GAP policies cover some of the excess depending on a cap)) and the original invoice price of what you paid for the car (potentially minus a few extras like car tax)

    This feels like it’s going to be one of those painful slow drip feed of information until we finally get to the real question.
    Thank you all I was after was clarification of if I was going to receive up to the value of the car before or after part exchanging my previous car as the value of the part exchange was lower than the settlement amount and because I paid the difference from the part exchange to the settlement was that classed as full payment 
  • Mildly_Miffed
    Mildly_Miffed Posts: 834 Forumite
    500 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    So... (made up numbers)

    purchase price of car in 2021 - £10,000
    px allowance for old car - £5,000
    balance payable - £5,000 cash

    but
    settlement of old car's finance - £6,000
    so £1,000 cash payable to finance

    so you paid £6k cash plus effectively £4k PX for your old car.

    To the gap insurer, though, how you financed the £10k purchase price is irrelevant. You paid £10k for that car.

    Return-to-invoice gap will pay you the difference between your insurer's write-off value and the £10k.
    So if the write-off value was £7.5k, the gap will pay £2.5k.
  • reggi2022
    reggi2022 Posts: 9 Forumite
    10 Posts Photogenic
    So... (made up numbers)

    purchase price of car in 2021 - £10,000
    px allowance for old car - £5,000
    balance payable - £5,000 cash

    but
    settlement of old car's finance - £6,000
    so £1,000 cash payable to finance

    so you paid £6k cash plus effectively £4k PX for your old car.

    To the gap insurer, though, how you financed the £10k purchase price is irrelevant. You paid £10k for that car.

    Return-to-invoice gap will pay you the difference between your insurer's write-off value and the £10k.
    So if the write-off value was £7.5k, the gap will pay £2.5k.
    Thank you so much, I think that what made me question it was that the price before part ex wasn’t shown on the invoice. Just the price of the part ex and the price due from finance company (as shown in the picture )
Meet your Ambassadors

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 347.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 251.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 451.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 239.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 615.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 175.1K Life & Family
  • 252.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.