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Upgrading old electricity meter to a smart one
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MikeJXE said:QrizB said:MikeJXE said:What they don't tell you is 12% of smart meters are dumbAnd the reason they don't tell you that, of course, is because it isn't true.MultiFuelBurner said:Welcome to the weekend SS where the mods don't return until midday Monday and the trolls are known to visit (not that I class anyone a troll here this is just a general statement)
https://www.ft.com/content/70ff2d39-6a95-4bc2-9b5a-9436884e9da70 -
MikeJXE said:QrizB said:MikeJXE said:What they don't tell you is 12% of smart meters are dumbAnd the reason they don't tell you that, of course, is because it isn't true.MultiFuelBurner said:Welcome to the weekend SS where the mods don't return until midday Monday and the trolls are known to visit (not that I class anyone a troll here this is just a general statement)
https://www.ft.com/content/70ff2d39-6a95-4bc2-9b5a-9436884e9da74.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy0 -
MikeJXE said:QrizB said:MikeJXE said:What they don't tell you is 12% of smart meters are dumbAnd the reason they don't tell you that, of course, is because it isn't true.MultiFuelBurner said:Welcome to the weekend SS where the mods don't return until midday Monday and the trolls are known to visit (not that I class anyone a troll here this is just a general statement)
https://www.ft.com/content/70ff2d39-6a95-4bc2-9b5a-9436884e9da7
Latest figures in the link provided after your inaccurate figures.0 -
MikeJXE said:QrizB said:MikeJXE said:What they don't tell you is 12% of smart meters are dumbAnd the reason they don't tell you that, of course, is because it isn't true.MultiFuelBurner said:Welcome to the weekend SS where the mods don't return until midday Monday and the trolls are known to visit (not that I class anyone a troll here this is just a general statement)
https://www.ft.com/content/70ff2d39-6a95-4bc2-9b5a-9436884e9da7No idea, as I can only read the headline.Dear @Dolor would always point to the French smart meter system, where the government chose a ingle reference model of smart meter and made sure every customer received the same one, as a more foresighted approach than the UK where our laissez-faire government pubished a spec (later revised) but left it to "the market" to provide meters. Hence us now having a hodge-podge of meters and comms hubs and a configuration control nightmare.Not entirely sure how that's relevant to this thread, though?
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I had a smart meter installed in August. The installer said that it was not possible to test the comms hub until the meter part had been installed and when the comms hub was installed he concluded that the signal was too weak for it to work. Fortunately he was wrong. But any suggestion that a smart meter would not be installed if it was only capable of operating in "dumb" mode is wrong in my experience. But because the installer thought that the meter would be "dumb" I was not allowed to have an IHD. I wonder if that happened to the other 2,999,999, or whatever that number is.Reed0
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Reed_Richards said:I wonder if that happened to the other 2,999,999, or whatever that number is.A non-exhaustive list might include:Some of them will be temporary, others will be fixable remotely, and the most stubborn ones will require a technician to visit.
- Flat batteries in gas meters
- Cell tower or radio site outages
- Failed or faulty OTH firmware updates
- Embedded system crashes
- etc.
N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!0 -
MikeJXE said:
Of the 32.4 million installed smart meters, 9% or three million were not operating in smart mode at the end of March 2023 “and are effectively indistinguishable from a traditional meter”, according to the NAO. This means they do not send energy use information to suppliers and may not display this to customers
With reference to the discussion, you claimed 12% were dumb - your 'evidence' states 9% AND it's quoting figures from early last year... want to try again?I'm not an early bird or a night owl; I’m some form of permanently exhausted pigeon.0 -
Netexporter said:Cashmygiro said:Keep_pedalling said:Cashmygiro said:Leccy companies will try anything to get you to switch to a smart meter. There is probably nothing wrong with your current meter and the 2nd rate is probably not used hence why the dial doesn't move.
Although the OP has not said what the night rate is used for, I think there opening post makes it pretty clear that they know it is faulty.
But it is a free country, so you are able to carry on shooting yourself in the foot, if you wish, as long as you have a licence for the gun.0 -
MultiFuelBurner said:Welcome to the weekend SS where the mods don't return until midday Monday and the trolls are known to visit (not that I class anyone a troll here this is just a general statement)
But back on subject there do seem to be a fair few people with jaded view if energy suppliers and their smart meter installs. I do wonder if this is on the back of the poor media clickbait coverage of obscene profits and such.MultiFuelBurner said:Welcome to the weekend SS where the mods don't return until midday Monday and the trolls are known to visit (not that I class anyone a troll here this is just a general statement)
But back on subject there do seem to be a fair few people with jaded view if energy suppliers and their smart meter installs. I do wonder if this is on the back of the poor media clickbait coverage of obscene profits and such.0 -
ArbitraryRandom said:MikeJXE said:
Of the 32.4 million installed smart meters, 9% or three million were not operating in smart mode at the end of March 2023 “and are effectively indistinguishable from a traditional meter”, according to the NAO. This means they do not send energy use information to suppliers and may not display this to customers
With reference to the discussion, you claimed 12% were dumb - your 'evidence' states 9% AND it's quoting figures from early last year... want to try again?
You might convince more customers to change to smart meters and perhaps EV cars if you told the whole truth.0
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