Contributory ESA and Vinted

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  • Kazzj750
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    Hi I’m newbie on here just wondering I know someone on contributory esa and they sell on Vinted with the new laws coming out are you allowed to sell now 
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    Kazzj750 said:
    Hi I’m newbie on here just wondering I know someone on contributory esa and they sell on Vinted with the new laws coming out are you allowed to sell now 
    What new laws?

    Anyone is allowed to sell items.  Whether they have to report it as income for ESA depends on whether they're selling their own unwanted possessions which DWP don't need to know about, or whether they are buying or making items specifically to sell in which case they would be trading and ought to report the profit.  But unless their profit from trading is over the £167/week threshold it won't affect their ESA anyway.
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    edited 2 January at 1:20AM
    Kazzj750 said:
    Hi I’m newbie on here just wondering I know someone on contributory esa and they sell on Vinted with the new laws coming out are you allowed to sell now 
    I presume you're talking about HMRC looking to investigate more those on selling sites potentially not declaring their earnings to pay appropriate tax. There are no new laws as far as I know unless you're referring to something else. People are allowed to sell on these platforms.. whether that impacts benefits will depend on the benefit and the circumstances of the selling. 
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    edited 3 January at 11:06AM
    Kazzj750 said:
    Hi I’m newbie on here just wondering I know someone on contributory esa and they sell on Vinted with the new laws coming out are you allowed to sell now 
    I presume you're talking about HMRC looking to investigate more those on selling sites potentially not declaring their earnings to pay appropriate tax. There are no new laws as far as I know unless you're referring to something else. People are allowed to sell on these platforms.. whether that impacts benefits will depend on the benefit and the circumstances of the selling. 
    I read yesterday that there is a threshold for occasional sellers v regular sellers.  A platform like vinted may say 30 items per year,  the discussion mentioned a £1000.  So the “new” application of the law says platforms share your details with HMRC (hence the 30 items limit) and then HMRC marry it up with your tax return.

    In my eyes it’s there to stop the charity shop up sellers from brining in cash and not paying tax.
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    peteuk said:
    Kazzj750 said:
    Hi I’m newbie on here just wondering I know someone on contributory esa and they sell on Vinted with the new laws coming out are you allowed to sell now 
    I presume you're talking about HMRC looking to investigate more those on selling sites potentially not declaring their earnings to pay appropriate tax. There are no new laws as far as I know unless you're referring to something else. People are allowed to sell on these platforms.. whether that impacts benefits will depend on the benefit and the circumstances of the selling. 
    I read yesterday that there is a threshold for occasional sellers v regular sellers.  A platform like vinted may say 30 items per year,  the discussion mentioned a £1000.  So the “new” application of the law says platforms share your details with HMRC (hence the 30 items limit) and then HMRC marry it up with your tax return.

    In my eyes it’s there to stop the charity shop up sellers from brining in cash and not paying tax.
    Whatever arbitrary measures they might bring in, it doesn't change the fact that only trading income is reportable and taxable.

    The reporting around this is so irresponsible, causing so much confusion and distress because it's so unclear.  Thoroughly reprehensible.
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