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inigma
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Hello,
I am looking at buying a switch timer for my leccy boiler.  We live in a 2 bed flat and our leccy bill is over £300 a month, the majority of this is coming from our boiler that is switched on 24/7 (This is due to having a little one, we tried switching it off over night but then forgetting to switch it on again and not having hot water for little ones and ourselves)  As a work around i thought about getting a timer switch that you place over the boiler switch that will switch it on at set times through out the day.

Am I imagining this product, is it a thing? 
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  • BellaBlondykeTheThird
    BellaBlondykeTheThird Posts: 286 Forumite
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    edited 1 January 2024 at 12:14PM
    Before the usual, electric boilers are the most expensive blah blah blah responses.

    Yes you can get such a timer installed but check there isn't something already in situ perhaps post some pics of the unit and do you have a master thermostat on the house?

    You could also setup an oil radiator with a thermostat in the little ones room and turn the heating off overnight for the rest of the flat.

    Edit it's not clear if OP has storage heaters/panel heaters or an electric boiler wet system (pictures please OP)
  • Graham2
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    inigma said:
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    Am I imagining this product, is it a thing? 
    Yes, any electric retailer will have such a thing. Many time switches also have 7 day schedules so you can have different times on different days of the week (e.g. for work/home days). Remember that immersion heaters are high current (typically 3 Kw or about 13 and a bit amps) so the time switch needs to have substantial switching capacity, at least 20 or 30 amps to provide a good safety margin to avoid over heating or wearing out prematurely.
  • FreeBear
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    BellaBlondykeTheThird said: Yes you can get such a timer installed but check there isn't something already in situ perhaps post some pics of the unit and do you have a master thermostat on the house?
    Rather than fitting just a timer, I would suggest a programmable thermostat - This will allow you to set different temperatures throughout the day, and will help to save some energy.
    But.... Having an electric boiler, I'm guessing that this is a rental property ?
    If so, any changes should be done with the written consent of the landlord, and the work carried out by a qualified electrician.

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  • Robin9
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    ......................, the majority of this is coming from our boiler that is switched on 24/7  .........................
    How have you calculated this ?  What do you mean by boiler -  just the hot water for washing etc -  often called an immersion heaater.


    What form does your electric heating take ?  storage rads, panels, underfloor, wet system with a giant boiler ?
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  • victor2
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    You can get smart switches controlled by an app. As well as a schedule, you can have a timer to just run the appliance for, say, 1 hour from when you switch it on. Just make sure that you get one that can handle the power the heater requires. 
    Just Google "smart switch for water heater".

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  • inigma
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    Right, I am by no means technical, it is a 2 bed flat that i own.

    The boiler is about 4 foot high and has another football shaped boiler on top of it.  There are 2 switches on the wall, one is the main boiler that keeps things warm then one is a boost, we have the main boiler switch on not the boost switch.

    As mentioned I am by no means technical or DIY orientated (If was to attempt to install something I would appear in a Michael Burke 999 style tv show).  I am just trying to work out my options so when I do get someone out then I know what I am asking for.
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  • elsien
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    I think it would probably help if you posted some pictures.
    Also answer the questions about what heating you’ve got in the flat, any thermostats and whether it’s a Combi boiler or an immersion heater?
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  • victor2
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    A photograph or two could get you better suggestions.

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  • inigma
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    For reference our average KWH usage was 33 KWH a day in December, I am buying timer plugs for the living room but these plug in to the wall and I can not do this with the boiler.

    (not to criticise my wife and daughter but my bachelor days my energy usage was about £16 a month in 2015)
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  • BellaBlondykeTheThird
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    edited 1 January 2024 at 10:24AM
    inigma said:
    For reference our average KWH usage was 33 KWH a day in December, I am buying timer plugs for the living room but these plug in to the wall and I can not do this with the boiler.

    (not to criticise my wife and daughter but my bachelor days my energy usage was about £16 a month in 2015)
    Was that in the same property with the same heating?

    33 kWh for December is not that bad for 24/7 electric boiler so say 1000kwh a month.

    Might I also ask which supplier you are with as with Octopus tracker that would have been £160 for December.

    Even on the new tracker formula £200 instead of £300.
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