Selling a house without a heating system

Mutton_Geoff

You intend to fit all electric heating with no additional electrical circuits?

_Penny_Dreadful

I’m amazed that someone has spent £30,000 refurbing a 2up-2down and the heating wasn’t one of the first and most expensive things to be sorted. Electric panel heaters are crap and Artful is right, they will result in a poor EPC rating. I know EPC should be taken with a pinch of salt but they are something buyers are paying more attention to these days. If you have to install electric heating then storage panels would be the better option. 

GDB2222

Mutton_Geoff said:

You intend to fit all electric heating with no additional electrical circuits?

If you fit night storage heaters with built in timing, it's not obvious why you would need additional cabling? 

Mutton_Geoff

GDB2222 said:

Mutton_Geoff said:

You intend to fit all electric heating with no additional electrical circuits?

If you fit night storage heaters with built in timing, it's not obvious why you would need additional cabling? 

Normally night storage heaters are run from their own circuit. Loading up a ring with electric heating (ie high load) that it wasn't designed for is bad practise even if they will only run at certain times of the day.

Dustyevsky

We don't know why you refurbished. If it was to sell-on quickly, then you've learned a lesson. If it was just to suit you, and circumstances have changed, then you simply take the hit on price, like the people who sold to me. Unless you can get grant assistance, it's unlikely you'll recoup costs of something like ASHP, or a wet system based on a fossil fuel.

Albermarle

Mutton_Geoff said:

GDB2222 said:

Mutton_Geoff said:

You intend to fit all electric heating with no additional electrical circuits?

If you fit night storage heaters with built in timing, it's not obvious why you would need additional cabling? 

Normally night storage heaters are run from their own circuit. Loading up a ring with electric heating (ie high load) that it wasn't designed for is bad practise even if they will only run at certain times of the day.

Presumably though many houses even with central heating may have a fan heater/oil filled radiator on in one room, if they are working from a home office/it is particularly cold.
I was not aware this could be an issue of possibly overloading the ring?

user1977

Albermarle said:

Mutton_Geoff said:

GDB2222 said:

Mutton_Geoff said:

You intend to fit all electric heating with no additional electrical circuits?

If you fit night storage heaters with built in timing, it's not obvious why you would need additional cabling? 

Normally night storage heaters are run from their own circuit. Loading up a ring with electric heating (ie high load) that it wasn't designed for is bad practise even if they will only run at certain times of the day.

Presumably though many houses even with central heating may have a fan heater/oil filled radiator on in one room, if they are working from a home office/it is particularly cold.
I was not aware this could be an issue of possibly overloading the ring?

One heater won't, but all of the storage heaters on at once is more of an issue. Don't know from the OP how many heaters it would be.

jacko74

Mutton_Geoff said:

You intend to fit all electric heating with no additional electrical circuits?

As part of the full rewire there was capacity for electric wall heaters included, I've just not got round to actually buying or installing them!

jacko74

_Penny_Dreadful said:

I’m amazed that someone has spent £30,000 refurbing a 2up-2down and the heating wasn’t one of the first and most expensive things to be sorted. Electric panel heaters are crap and Artful is right, they will result in a poor EPC rating. I know EPC should be taken with a pinch of salt but they are something buyers are paying more attention to these days. If you have to install electric heating then storage panels would be the better option. 

Some form of electric panel/storage heaters was always going to be my preference anyway, partly because of the huge installation cost and questionable efficiency of other systems.

EssexHebridean

jacko74 said:

_Penny_Dreadful said:

I’m amazed that someone has spent £30,000 refurbing a 2up-2down and the heating wasn’t one of the first and most expensive things to be sorted. Electric panel heaters are crap and Artful is right, they will result in a poor EPC rating. I know EPC should be taken with a pinch of salt but they are something buyers are paying more attention to these days. If you have to install electric heating then storage panels would be the better option. 

Some form of electric panel/storage heaters was always going to be my preference anyway, partly because of the huge installation cost and questionable efficiency of other systems.

Be careful not to conflate these two - panel heaters = massively high electricity bills as all heating will be on the standard kWh rate for the energy used. Storage heaters - NSH's - are substantially cheaper to run as long as they are run on an Economy 7 and charge overnight on the off-peak rate - which can be in the region of 50% of the usual single rate tariff kWh cost.