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Premier Park, B W Legal court claim 2025

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  • Castle
    Castle Posts: 4,788 Forumite
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    Yes; and paragraphs 7 to 12 are missing, so is there a third page?
  • brighton74
    brighton74 Posts: 48 Forumite
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    Missing page
  • brighton74
    brighton74 Posts: 48 Forumite
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    Defence

    The facts known to the Defendant:

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper.


    3.  Referring to the quantum in the POC: the claimed sum is hugely exaggerated (no PC can be £170 on private land and interest cannot accrue on that inflated total) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever. Regarding the pleaded case: Paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraphs 2, 3 and 4 are also denied. To the Defendant's knowledge, there was no contravention and any purported terms on signs were likely inadequate. The Claimant is to put strict proof of all of their allegations. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms.


    4. The entrance signs are inadequately positioned in a badly lit area covered by a tree. There are 2 parking companies operating in the same car park, Premier park have signs that are partially covered by vegetation and One parking Solution signs are bleached by sunlight.

    BPA‟s Code of Practice (18.2) states: “Entrance signs play an important part in establishing a parking contract and deterring trespassers. Therefore, as well as the signs you must have telling drivers about the terms and conditions for parking, you must also have a standard form of entrance sign at the entrance to the parking area. Entrance signs must tell drivers that the car park is managed and that there are terms and conditions they must be aware of.” 

    BPA‟s Code of Practice (18.3) states: “Signs must be conspicuous and legible, and written in intelligible language, so that they are easy to see, read and understand.” BPA‟s Code of Practice (Appendix states: “If you think there are other circumstances where it is impractical or undesirable to have an entrance sign, you must tell us in advance and get our approval to amend the sign or not have one.” 

    “Signs should be readable and understandable at all times, including during the hours of darkness or at dusk if and when parking enforcement activity takes place at those times. This can be achieved in a variety of ways such as by direct lighting or by using the lighting for the parking area. If the sign itself is not directly or indirectly lit, we suggest that it should be made of a retro-reflective material” 


    5. A parking charge notice must clearly state the period of parking. Premier park do not states ‘period of parking’ in their NTK - Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions

    Plymouth Court, on appeal to HHJ Mitchel) ref H6DP632H, 21/8/2023 (finding: no period of parking on a NTK meant that it was a non-compliant notice and a keeper could not beheld liable)


    6. Terms and conditions on Premier Park sign ‘If you enter or park on this land contravening the above terms and conditions, you are agreeing to pay:  PARKING CHARGE NOTICE (PNC) £100.00. This land is a cut through road between Ellen St and Goldstone st, With businesses receiving delivery’s all day. There are also 2 parking companies operating this land so ‘If you enter or park on this land’ cannot apply. The terms and conditions signs are tiny and placed very sparsely on the Industrial house building, Two cars high on an unlit wall way above head height. Even if they could be seen in the dark, the terms offer nothing of value to a non-permit holder, thus the elements of a contract do not exist.

  • brighton74
    brighton74 Posts: 48 Forumite
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    MCOl done is my defence ok to submit or is there anything I can add. Many Thanks
  • Car1980
    Car1980 Posts: 1,467 Forumite
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    edited 29 June at 9:37PM
    Too long. That's all for your witness statement, along with your plans etc.

    You just need a paragraph where you stated you parked in an area where a single sign stated "parking for Industrial House only" and where no restrictions were apparent other than a double
    yellow line which terminated before your car. 

    Then the rest will be the default template (feel free to remove any non-applicable parts).
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