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24 month renewal of Plusnet bb with copper landline

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  • Semi-serious alternative - satellite phone handsets can be bought for around £500 with a monthly fee of about £30.

    Calls are even more expensive than Vodafone PAYG. 

    Pal has one for backup when they're doing adventurous remote stuff. 
  • QrizB
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    edited 31 December 2023 at 11:09AM
    KxMx said:
    That doesn't directly relate to the 2025 date, though.
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  • 400ixl said:
    donglefan said:
    Residential Starlink, which could provide a service with comparable reliablity to ptsn, is currently priced at £75 per month, plus setup cost of £450.
    Starlink receivers also need power so how do you come to the conclusion you have?


    In our rural area, when power goes down, so too does the mobile network.  Half that problem could be fixed by people who can afford it by using starlink, but then as you say, they would also need their own generator.  
  • wild666
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    What's surprised me about the switch to switching to VOIP for the phones is that there are not scammers trying to get people to buy an overpriced phone to put into their router with them saying their old phone won't work with the VOIP system. 
    Maybe charging them £80 to £100 or more for a phone they themselves paid £10 or less for and is exactly the same phone as the person has. As far as I'm aware many phones that are plugged into the copper network will work perfectly well when plugged into the router my ISP's router has a connection for two phones, but I haven't used my phone since it was installed in 2011.  
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  • matelodave
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    What do you think powers the Starlink router/antenna setup in your house. It's as reliable or unreliable as the existing system. 

    Once upon a time big exchanges had batteries the size of fish tanks(very large fish tanks) and diesel generators to keep them going for days at a time, but those days are long since gone and now, unless its a pretty major transmission or data centre, you've probably only got 4-6 hours back up from the batteries in the street cabinet. 

    In fact if you can maintain your router and ONT at home with a UPS you probably have a longer backup time over an FTTP optical system than a wired system nowadays.

    Passive optical networks like FTTP dont have any powered devices between you and the the exchange unlike the present FTTC setup where the street cabinets house the broadband equipment and in many cases,  a Remote Subscriber Unit for the phone lines.

    The backup limit is the size of the batteries that are accommodated in the cabinet, not the exchange anymore.
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  • 400ixl said:
    There is no cooling off period on a broadband renewal as all you are doing is extending an existing contract with a new minimum term. Cooling off period only exists on new contracts (e.g. with a new supplier).

    As for the landline, currently there are no plans for Plusnet to offer digital voice, so when the current service gets switched off latest 2025 (but could be before for different exchanges) you will lose the landline if you stayed with Plusnet. Currently customers in this position will be allowed to move to EE or BT without penalty who do offer digital voice. Whether that means entering into a new minimum term contract at a different price I don't know but would think that likely.

    There is no ability to move to any other provider penalty free if still in the minimum term.

    The statement that there is no cooling-off period for contract renewals is not entirely accurate. The 14-day cooling-off period still applies if you renew a contract online, by phone, or via distance selling because it constitutes a new agreement, even if the service provider is the same. If you're agreeing to a new minimum term or a new package, that’s a new contract in the eyes of the law.
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