Napier Parking - overstayed, JustPark app issues

Gr1pr

I was wondering if it was theirs and they might rent out the store. ?  You appear to have confirmed my suspicions 

LDast

Napier certainly won't be the landowner. Ask the store who is their landlord.

Coupon-mad

Yep - this is not true:

"the owner of the car park is Napier Parking".

WombwellBlade

Anyone got the best suggestion for finding this out then? Should I badger the council? 

Gr1pr

Umkomaas said:

Umkomaas and Fruitcake regularly post details on here on tracking down landowners or managing agents

SOME IDEAS FOR DETERMINING WHO OWNS THE LAND 

1. Google searches

2. If a retail park, check on any signage which lists the on-site outlets

3. Ask retailers on the site if there is a managing agent

4. Ask retailers on the site to whom do they pay rent

5. Contact the local authority and ask who pays the non-domestic/business rate for the car park (some councils have a spreadsheet on their website)

6. Contact the local Valuation Office and ask if they know. They often have a website which might provide the information 

7. Contact The Land Registry and for around £3 they should be able to provide definitive detail

8. If you haven't already done so, give us the name of the car park/site/location, we may have seen other cases there. 

By any method necessary, including the council business rates section, the full list was given on the last page by Umkomaas above 

WombwellBlade

I gave up on trying to get the land owners details, the council are as much help as a chocolate fire guard. I’ve exhausted every channel bar the £3 land registry one, which I don’t feel the need to go for to be honest. 

I’ve just slightly amended coupon-mad’s response template to suit my case and submitted it. 

Firstly tried email to disputeresolution@bwlegal.co.uk but I had no auto response so thought I better be sure, so went on their site and used their customer portal. 

I haven’t used any of the other material they sent, the only response I’ve used is that of the email response as instructed. 

So now we’ll see how we get on! Overall though, more than happy to take this all the way. 

Coupon-mad

Good!

There's no risk as long as you don't move house or ignore a court claim. Easy to defend.

WombwellBlade

Coupon-mad said:

Good!

There's no risk as long as you don't move house or ignore a court claim. Easy to defend.

Good life experience too I think, never had to attend court so if push came to shove I think I’d enjoy it. 

An argument but with real life stakes sounds like good fun to me…

Coupon-mad

WombwellBlade said:

Coupon-mad said:

Good!

There's no risk as long as you don't move house or ignore a court claim. Easy to defend.

Good life experience too I think, never had to attend court so if push came to shove I think I’d enjoy it. 

An argument but with real life stakes sounds like good fun to me…

Yes, that is how it feels.

That's the right attitude. Despite writing defences galore and knowing everything there is to know about PPC scams & private parking law in general, I hadn't done any court cases until 5 years ago but decided I should.

So I attended a few to help people in Sussex and won them all. It was a life experience and stressful, high stakes adrenaline-rush 'fun'!

Then in 2020 I put myself forward to represent consumers on the Government Steering Group to help shape the new statutory Code of Practice. Got accepted for that too and I'm still heavily involved.

All good life experience.

I am not telling PPC World what my new thing is but I hope to make a difference with it...

WombwellBlade

Got a response from BWLegal:

Thank you for contacting us, please find our response below: Thank you for your contact. We will take our client’s instructions regarding issuing legal proceedings and will only issue when our client instruct us to do so.  We confirm your address for service is same address we already hold on our file. Our claim is not exaggerated as proven at court numerous times and there is case law and contract law to support this. Please note there is no additional £100.00.  The PCN is for £100.00 and the debt recovery fees are £60.00.  The fees we charge our clients for our services are subject to VAT.  However, these are separate and distinct from contractual debt recovery costs recoverable by our client from the motorist. The claim is for breach of contract. We are unable to accept payment for the additional 20 minutes.  The full balance remains outstanding. If you have any further issues or new questions that you would like us to assist you with, we kindly request that you use the contact options below to submit a new query.

 

Yours sincerely,

BW Legal