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  • MikeJXE
    MikeJXE Posts: 3,856 Forumite
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    GingerTim said:
    MikeJXE said:
    What is the life span of a dumb meter and how strict are the rules ? 

    My rented flat was built 2006/07 so then meters are 16/17 years old if they were brand new when fitted 

    I'm in a block of 7 and only one is smart 

    So when can I expect to be required to have a smart meter (not that I'm bothered) I have been in smart before this 
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1126202/schedule-4-december-2022.pdf

    Here you go, check your electricity meter model on there.
    Here is the gas 
    Thank you 

  • MikeJXE
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    My electric top left corner date July 2005


  • Netexporter
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    The electric meter was made in 2005. The gas meter appears to be 2014.
  • MikeJXE
    MikeJXE Posts: 3,856 Forumite
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    The electric meter was made in 2005. The gas meter appears to be 2014.
    Thats my thinking, electric 18 years old 

    So is the gas meter a refurb ? 
  • Netexporter
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    So is the gas meter a refurb ? 

    Just a replacement, I suspect.

  • QrizB
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    edited 1 December 2023 at 10:39PM
    MikeJXE said:
    My electric top left corner date July 2005
    (Photo of Ampy 5235A meter)
    That particular model of meter has a relatively common fault where it over-reads. Sometimes by a little bit, sometimes by a lot.
    See for example this recent thread.
    Someone recently said "I don't see many people on here with a dumb meter problem" Well, there's one for you.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • MikeJXE
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    QrizB said:
    MikeJXE said:
    My electric top left corner date July 2005
    (Photo of Ampy 5235A meter)
    That particular model of meter has a relatively common fault where it over-reads. Sometimes by a little bit, sometimes by a lot.
    See for example this recent thread.
    Someone recently said "I don't see many people on here with a dumb meter problem" Well, there's one for you.
    Haha so what would you recommend ?

    I just checked a years readings and they  fluctuate between 9 and 12 kWh per week since February and consistently through the year 

    That doesn't mean it's accurate though 
  • Netexporter
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    Haha so what would you recommend ?

    Get a smart meter.

  • QrizB
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    MikeJXE said:
    QrizB said:
    MikeJXE said:
    My electric top left corner date July 2005
    (Photo of Ampy 5235A meter)
    That particular model of meter has a relatively common fault where it over-reads. Sometimes by a little bit, sometimes by a lot.
    See for example this recent thread.
    Someone recently said "I don't see many people on here with a dumb meter problem" Well, there's one for you.
    Haha so what would you recommend ?
    Obviously I'm going to gently suggest that you get it replaced by your supplier :)  who will fit a shiny new meter of their choice, at their own expense.
    Alternatively, if you have a sentimental attachment to that particular box of electronice, you could employ an electrician to fit your own meter, between that Ampy and your fusebox, to give you an independent check of the readings. Your electrician will be able to fit another dumb meter, something like an Emlite ECA2 (link).
    Or you can chance it and hope it doesn't go wrong before the smart meter rollout reaches you!

    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • MikeJXE
    MikeJXE Posts: 3,856 Forumite
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    QrizB said:
    MikeJXE said:
    QrizB said:
    MikeJXE said:
    My electric top left corner date July 2005
    (Photo of Ampy 5235A meter)
    That particular model of meter has a relatively common fault where it over-reads. Sometimes by a little bit, sometimes by a lot.
    See for example this recent thread.
    Someone recently said "I don't see many people on here with a dumb meter problem" Well, there's one for you.
    Haha so what would you recommend ?
    Obviously I'm going to gently suggest that you get it replaced by your supplier :)  who will fit a shiny new meter of their choice, at their own expense.
    Alternatively, if you have a sentimental attachment to that particular box of electronice, you could employ an electrician to fit your own meter, between that Ampy and your fusebox, to give you an independent check of the readings. Your electrician will be able to fit another dumb meter, something like an Emlite ECA2 (link).
    Or you can chance it and hope it doesn't go wrong before the smart meter rollout reaches you!

    As I have said many times I am not against smart meters.

    I have lived  in a property for 2 years with one no problem except for the agent telling me the wrong gas meter which I spotted the mistake 

    What I do believe in is 

    If it ain't broke don't fix it 

    Well now you tell me it could be broke and it is 18 years old, I will have a word with Octopus who I am on a fix with 
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