Survey results - exposed wiring

atlasmm

Hi, the attached wiring on our boiler was picked up as a serious fault on our home buyer survey. 

Is this an immediate safety concern that needs rectifying (and if so, what is the actual issue? I assume it’s because it’s exposed wiring?)

Thanks

user1977

Yes, it shouldn't be exposed and also that sort of connection should be left dangling. Easy enough to fix though (I would DIY it but now it's been spotted I suppose someone might demand professionals get involved).

tacpot12

It's not an immediate safety concern because there are no exposed copper - so there is no possiblity (unless you were unlucky or daft) of coming into contact with live wires.  The connector has shrouded terminals, so you would have to take a long slender peice of metal to touch the live terminals and hence get an electric shock. If you are not going to do this, you are safe until it can be fixed. 

The best way to solve it is using a maintenance free junction box, like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293297580206

Easy DIY job if you know how to isolate the boiler, and how to check that you have isolated the boiler. 

The junction box needs to be fixed to the wall. 

dil1976

tacpot12 said:

It's not an immediate safety concern because there are no exposed copper - so there is no possiblity (unless you were unlucky or daft) of coming into contact with live wires.  The connector has shrouded terminals, so you would have to take a long slender peice of metal to touch the live terminals and hence get an electric shock. If you are not going to do this, you are safe until it can be fixed. 

 

Please don't give out advice like this, using the word daft shows how little you know of the dangers of electricity. Depending on the voltage that is dangerous enough to warrant immediate action regardless of shrouded terminals or not. 

ProDave

It is a C2 fault enough to give an EICR an "unsatisfactory" rating.

But if that is all that they could find wrong, it is really really simple to fix, just put that connection inside a proper junction box so that none of the inner cores are visible outside the junction box.

It is only dangerous if you go poking with it.  Left untouched it is highly unlikely to cause a problem.

km1500

yes simply put the connection inside a junction box

atlasmm

tacpot12 said:

It's not an immediate safety concern because there are no exposed copper - so there is no possiblity (unless you were unlucky or daft) of coming into contact with live wires.  The connector has shrouded terminals, so you would have to take a long slender peice of metal to touch the live terminals and hence get an electric shock. If you are not going to do this, you are safe until it can be fixed. 

The best way to solve it is using a maintenance free junction box, like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293297580206

Easy DIY job if you know how to isolate the boiler, and how to check that you have isolated the boiler. 

The junction box needs to be fixed to the wall. 

Thanks - so the middle part of that plastic box is already done in my photo, so as someone with zero DIY/electrical knowledge - I can literally just insert that lego block looking thing into this plastic box you’ve linked here (instead of using the one supplied with it) and close the box and that’s it, no need to touch any wiring?

MultiFuelBurner

atlasmm said:

tacpot12 said:

It's not an immediate safety concern because there are no exposed copper - so there is no possiblity (unless you were unlucky or daft) of coming into contact with live wires.  The connector has shrouded terminals, so you would have to take a long slender peice of metal to touch the live terminals and hence get an electric shock. If you are not going to do this, you are safe until it can be fixed. 

The best way to solve it is using a maintenance free junction box, like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293297580206

Easy DIY job if you know how to isolate the boiler, and how to check that you have isolated the boiler. 

The junction box needs to be fixed to the wall. 

Thanks - so the middle part of that plastic box is already done in my photo, so as someone with zero DIY/electrical knowledge - I can literally just insert that lego block looking thing into this plastic box you’ve linked here (instead of using the one supplied with it) and close the box and that’s it, no need to touch any wiring?

Don't do this yourself unless you have done this before and know you can isolate that supply and test that is isolated.

MultiFuelBurner

MultiFuelBurner said:

atlasmm said:

tacpot12 said:

It's not an immediate safety concern because there are no exposed copper - so there is no possiblity (unless you were unlucky or daft) of coming into contact with live wires.  The connector has shrouded terminals, so you would have to take a long slender peice of metal to touch the live terminals and hence get an electric shock. If you are not going to do this, you are safe until it can be fixed. 

The best way to solve it is using a maintenance free junction box, like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293297580206

Easy DIY job if you know how to isolate the boiler, and how to check that you have isolated the boiler. 

The junction box needs to be fixed to the wall. 

Thanks - so the middle part of that plastic box is already done in my photo, so as someone with zero DIY/electrical knowledge - I can literally just insert that lego block looking thing into this plastic box you’ve linked here (instead of using the one supplied with it) and close the box and that’s it, no need to touch any wiring?

Don't do this yourself unless you have done this before and know you can isolate that supply and test that is isolated.

Don't just latch onto one comment on the internet and go ahead.

35har1old

tacpot12 said:

It's not an immediate safety concern because there are no exposed copper - so there is no possiblity (unless you were unlucky or daft) of coming into contact with live wires.  The connector has shrouded terminals, so you would have to take a long slender peice of metal to touch the live terminals and hence get an electric shock. If you are not going to do this, you are safe until it can be fixed. 

The best way to solve it is using a maintenance free junction box, like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293297580206

Easy DIY job if you know how to isolate the boiler, and how to check that you have isolated the boiler. 

The junction box needs to be fixed to the wall. 

Doesn't look like there would be enough cable to fix to a wall

dil1976

ProDave said:

It is a C2 fault enough to give an EICR an "unsatisfactory" rating.

But if that is all that they could find wrong, it is really really simple to fix, just put that connection inside a proper junction box so that none of the inner cores are visible outside the junction box.

It is only dangerous if you go poking with it.  Left untouched it is highly unlikely to cause a problem.

Not sure where you get it would be a C2 from it is straight away a C1, even the Electrical safety council Best Practice guide says it is, which is immediate danger.  

https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/media/tx5i50ao/best-practice-guide-4-issue-7.pdf