Spanish speed fine scam

Gaz2764

I have only owned the car since May and have never driven it in europe . 

Gaz2764

I can only assume that the previous owner possibly drove it in Spain or as  you say my plates have been cloned or it  is an admin mistake .

Goudy

Gaz2764 said:

I can only assume that the previous owner possibly drove it in Spain or as  you say my plates have been cloned or it  is an admin mistake .

Or your plates are clone.

Car_54

[Deleted User] said:

Rather than sending them any information, send them a Subject Access Request instead. Find out what they have.

Do you really think the Spanish authorities are subject to UK data protection laws?

It may be worth sending a SAR to DVLA, to see what (if any) info they've supplied.

Bigphil1474

As Goudy suggests, might be worth doing some deeper checks on your own car. The vehicle details they supplied will be correct if they've just provided the VRN to DVLA, but doesn't necessarily mean they provided the correct VRN in the first place.  

user1977

Car_54 said:

[Deleted User] said:

Rather than sending them any information, send them a Subject Access Request instead. Find out what they have.

Do you really think the Spanish authorities are subject to UK data protection laws?

It may be worth sending a SAR to DVLA, to see what (if any) info they've supplied.

I fully expect all that will show is that they gave the registered keeper details to dgt.es in relation to a speeding offence. DVLA don't need to be told more. 

Car_54

user1977 said:

Car_54 said:

[Deleted User] said:

Rather than sending them any information, send them a Subject Access Request instead. Find out what they have.

Do you really think the Spanish authorities are subject to UK data protection laws?

It may be worth sending a SAR to DVLA, to see what (if any) info they've supplied.

I fully expect all that will show is that they gave the registered keeper details to dgt.es in relation to a speeding offence. DVLA don't need to be told more. 

DVLA say
"Data sharing with other countries
DVLA shares vehicle data to enable other countries to check information on vehicles presented for registration. We also share driving licence data with other countries to allow them to decide the validity and authenticity of driving licences presented for exchange."

No mention there of requests in relation to alleged offences.

So - assuming DVLA do as they say -, where did Johnny Foreigner get the OP's details?

user1977

Car_54 said:

user1977 said:

Car_54 said:

[Deleted User] said:

Rather than sending them any information, send them a Subject Access Request instead. Find out what they have.

Do you really think the Spanish authorities are subject to UK data protection laws?

It may be worth sending a SAR to DVLA, to see what (if any) info they've supplied.

I fully expect all that will show is that they gave the registered keeper details to dgt.es in relation to a speeding offence. DVLA don't need to be told more. 

DVLA say
"Data sharing with other countries
DVLA shares vehicle data to enable other countries to check information on vehicles presented for registration. We also share driving licence data with other countries to allow them to decide the validity and authenticity of driving licences presented for exchange."

No mention there of requests in relation to alleged offences.

So - assuming DVLA do as they say -, where did Johnny Foreigner get the OP's details?

They will give registered keeper details to anyone who states reasonable cause, so it's no different from someone in the UK wanting to pursue a claim.

Gaz2764

Hi all update 
Just managed to call a customer service number that was given on the letter for fine issued , finally got through to someone who spoke english . Gave the record number issued on the letter and explained that i Have not been to or  travelled to Spain for over 10 yrs
She said " oh that is very big problem for us "
So after a slight pause she then came back with " we have typed wrong letter on registration , so we will cancel fine " I said oh thankyou can you send conformation email or letter , she said no just call back tomorrow to check .
All very dodgy to me .

Thanks for all the advice i'll see what happens .

 

[Deleted User]

Car_54 said:

[Deleted User] said:

Rather than sending them any information, send them a Subject Access Request instead. Find out what they have.

Do you really think the Spanish authorities are subject to UK data protection laws?

It may be worth sending a SAR to DVLA, to see what (if any) info they've supplied.

Spain has GDPR too. While not obliged to, they will likely respond. Otherwise just ignore them - if they are going to play the jurisdiction game, you might as well too.