Not For EU Food

MrsStepford

Last night, I had Deliveroo and a movie. My Deliveroo order included Co-op British pork cocktail sausages. Nothing on the Deliveroo or Co-op websites but in the bottom right hand corner, on the use by panel, it had Not For EU on it.

Though the government will surely try weasel words, this phrase means that UK food standards are divergent from those of the EU. If they had remained the same, post-Brexit, then British food would be accepted in the EU. 

I won't be buying meat from British supermarkets again if it arrives with these labels. It will have been a conscious decision by the government, to allow producers and processors to relax standards and diverge from EU regulations, yet prices are rising not falling. 

oldernonethewiser

You could always have looked up the reason behind the wording.

https://retailtimes.co.uk/brits-to-see-new-not-for-eu-labels-in-supermarkets-but-what-are-they/

Farway

You are wrong on your assumption, the not for EU is to prevent lots of paperwork just to export to Northern Ireland and "leakage" over the border into Eire

It does not mean lower or different standards, just avoids the expense of proving they are the same

It is far easier for large suppliers to mark everything Not for EU than faff around with items only destined for NI

MrsStepford

oldernonethewiser said:

You could always have looked up the reason behind the wording.

https://retailtimes.co.uk/brits-to-see-new-not-for-eu-labels-in-supermarkets-but-what-are-they/

I did read that actual article. I will reiterate that if UK standards were the same as those of the EU, there would be no reason to separate food and exclude it from the EU e.g. ROI. 

YoungBlueEyes

It's nothing at all to do with standards, it's a tax/paperwork issue post Brexit.

You don't think they're making worse quality food just for us do you?  

35har1old

YoungBlueEyes said:

It's nothing at all to do with standards, it's a tax/paperwork issue post Brexit.

You don't think they're making worse quality food just for us do you?  

Food is not the only issue that involves extra paperwork

Attempted to order a table tennis bat through Decathlon it was from a third party based in England but was unable to have it delivered due to the company not prepared to fill  the same paperwork out to satisfy the EU

molerat

MrsStepford said:

oldernonethewiser said:

You could always have looked up the reason behind the wording.

https://retailtimes.co.uk/brits-to-see-new-not-for-eu-labels-in-supermarkets-but-what-are-they/

I did read that actual article. I will reiterate that if UK standards were the same as those of the EU, there would be no reason to separate food and exclude it from the EU e.g. ROI. 

The only difference between the 2 items would be the expensive piece of paper that the EU certified one would have.   Nothing to do with standards whatsoever. 

Longwalker

As a Northern Ireland resident, I find it rather amusing that the supermarkets here have to put shelf edge labelling on products not for EU - save paperwork one end and place it at the other

@ MrsStepford, please educate yourself on the the problem of the border ( which none of us want here in NI )  which separates the UK - non EU - with Eire - EU

Since Brexit, we here in NI haven't been able to buy the same goods as you guys on "the mainland: have, our shelves have been half full. Its nothing to do with the UK having lower standards what so ever, its to do with transporting in and out of EU countries, Before this labelling came into force, we needed a vet to pass meat products, a lot of food was having to be dumped, not enough vets, too long a wait blah blah blah 

You have probably only lived during the period of Common Market and the the EU

Because the "mainland: is an island, you guys are fine, sort of, because we share a "non existent border: with the EU, us guys here are getting it tough, why do you think we dont have a working government ? Nothing to do with standards of food what so ever , all to do with the fact that Northern Ireland shares a non existent land boarder with the EU. The People of Eire and Northern Ireland dont want a boarder and the people of Northern Ireland want the same as you guys on the mainland - hence the labelling 

General_Grant

Send that boarder across the border.
(Sorry, couldn't resist - but thank you for your post.)

oldernonethewiser

MrsStepford said:

oldernonethewiser said:

You could always have looked up the reason behind the wording.

https://retailtimes.co.uk/brits-to-see-new-not-for-eu-labels-in-supermarkets-but-what-are-they/

I did read that actual article. I will reiterate that if UK standards were the same as those of the EU, there would be no reason to separate food and exclude it from the EU e.g. ROI. 

It is a shame you misunderstood it then. 

As has been pointed out your reasoning is incorrect.

Longwalker

@Mrstepford This quote in layman's terms should help you understand 

"EU food safety regulations allow only frozen meats to enter the single market – prohibiting the import of chilled meat products, such as sausages and minced meat. Such a ban does not apply to meat products traded within the EU, since all member states are subject to common regulatory standards which are continuously monitored and enforced by EU institutions, as well as domestic and EU courts. However, this does not apply to third countries. The reason for this is that even if a third country adopts rules that are identical to those of the EU (e.g., the UK), the EU cannot simply assume that these rules are effectively complied with and enforced to the EU’s standards.

These restrictions therefore apply to trade between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And since Northern Ireland is subject to EU laws in this area, the same prohibitions should apply to chilled meat products imported from Great Britain."

So basically us poor souls here in NI could not get fresh meat - including sausages -from the Mainland - in case they made their way over the non existent border without tonnes and tonnes of expensive paper work, which no one was prepared to pay for - you guys subsidised it for a year, so now we have the Windsor Protocol which means these products are allowed into Northern Ireland but no further. 

So now we have a great scenario in the non border border towns, where a shop can now legally sell them cos its on the northern side of the border, but Mrs McNally , 10 yards down the road isnt allowed to buy them as shes in Eire and therefore in the EU   ( I just made that bit up as a bit of fun poking ) 

The UK have the same stringent food regulations as the rest of the EU member states. Just their rules do not allow us to import fresh meat into the EU 

Now I can get higher quality sausages again rather then the carp Richmond Sausages which are only around 40% pork and have to, by EU rules be labelled Irish Recipe so that consumer knew they were getting a less meat product compared to  what they expected a sausage to be made up off 

The inferior product when it comes to the GB Bangor,  is the EU ones we here in Northern Ireland have had to put up with these past few years