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4G (5G?) router with Power over ethernet for rural location

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  • QrizB
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    If you can't get a POE router, but want to send power over the ethernet cable a pair of these might work:

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  • flashg67
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    edited 22 November 2023 at 9:57PM
    Does anyone cover the area with a 'WISP' service - I am rural and use Boundless Internet accessed by a small dish with line of site to one of their transmitters - works well for me and not too expensive.
  • flashg67 said:
    Does anyone cover the area with a 'WISP' service - I am rural and use Boundless Internet accessed by a small dish with line of site to one of their transmitters - works well for me and not too expensive.
    not heard of this, but assuming the map here is accurate:
    https://www.ukwispa.org/members-map
    then sadly no... closest area would be about 10-15 miles away.
    could be very useful for others following this thread though.
  • QrizB said:
    If you can't get a POE router, but want to send power over the ethernet cable a pair of these might work:

    Very interesting... not thought of those, but basically a way of extracting then "injecting" the PoE component of  your ethernet cable into your device's power port. Assuming you can find one with the correct power adapter size / voltage (and current) that should work.
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  • QrizB
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    QrizB said:
    If you can't get a POE router, but want to send power over the ethernet cable a pair of these might work:

    Very interesting... not thought of those, but basically a way of extracting then "injecting" the PoE component of  your ethernet cable into your device's power port. Assuming you can find one with the correct power adapter size / voltage (and current) that should work.
    You'd use the 4G router's own psu to inject, so matching the electrical parameters shouldn't be an issue. And there are cheap adapters to turn 5.5/2.1 into most other common options, if your router doesn't already use that size.

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  • Lorian
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    Which county is this in? No local grant/support scheme through the council to install?
  • J_B
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    flashg67 said:
    Does anyone cover the area with a 'WISP' service - I am rural and use Boundless Internet accessed by a small dish with line of site to one of their transmitters - works well for me and not too expensive.
    not heard of this, but assuming the map here is accurate:
    https://www.ukwispa.org/members-map
    then sadly no... closest area would be about 10-15 miles away.
    could be very useful for others following this thread though.

    That map is *not* accurate.
    I know the guy who owns the land where the transmitter is and his home is not featured on there

    We get 40 Mbps from Airband (most of the time), who don't seem to be featured on that list.
  • On-the-coast
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    Lorian said:
    Which county is this in? No local grant/support scheme through the council to install?
    My understanding (I have asked my parents a few times over the years) is that there needs to be a certain number of houses signing up... i think in their case it would only be 2 or 3 relevant houses,  which wasn't big enough to get a grant.  I did wonder if there was a fall back to somethign like subsidised starlink in the case of isolated not-spots... but since their local council is cutting back on just about everything, i'd be surprised, and although they are unwilling to pay approaching £100/month for highspeed satelite internet they're not exactly on the poverty-line (they would freely admit there are far more deserving cases than them).
    P.s. about 2 years ago they were offered a chance to share in a fibre installation for about £5k split between 4 houses which they declined (i'd have accepted... but i WFH so fast internet is important to me... less so to them)
  • J_B said:
    flashg67 said:
    Does anyone cover the area with a 'WISP' service - I am rural and use Boundless Internet accessed by a small dish with line of site to one of their transmitters - works well for me and not too expensive.
    not heard of this, but assuming the map here is accurate:
    https://www.ukwispa.org/members-map
    then sadly no... closest area would be about 10-15 miles away.
    could be very useful for others following this thread though.

    That map is *not* accurate.
    I know the guy who owns the land where the transmitter is and his home is not featured on there

    We get 40 Mbps from Airband (most of the time), who don't seem to be featured on that list.
    So... if ukwispa org can't tell you whether they might be able to provide a service, how do people go about finding who might be able to beam in some long distance wifi?  word of mouth... or is the very nature of these things such that they're set up ad-hoc by a group of like minded people?  Curious... maybe I'll have to email that organisation.
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