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Landlord Imposes Rent Increase on 12 Month Anniversary
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anselld said:Jay_C said:anselld said:The latest RPI figures show an annual increase of 8.9% so 10% is a lie for starters.Office for National Statistics ...... and it will probably be lower tomorrow (the 15th) when the latest data is published for year to October.1
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The RPI figures are published a month in arrears. Is there anything in the rent agreement about how to deal with this, for example use the latest published increase, even though that’s for an earlier month?
No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
GDB2222 said:The RPI figures are published a month in arrears. Is there anything in the rent agreement about how to deal with this, for example use the latest published increase, even though that’s for an earlier month?
What date does/did the fixed term end?
Is the LL demanding the new rent from the date the fixed term ends/ended, or some other date?
What date did the LL serve notice of the new rent on the T?
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Jay_C said:Hi all
I am in a fixed 3 year term tenancy which has the following clause and explanation from the agent“6. Rent Increase 6.1 The Landlord can increase the Rent every twelve months on the anniversary of the date on which the Tenancy began (“the Rent Increase Date”). The increase is to be calculated according to the rise in the Retail Prices Index from the start of the Tenancy or the anniversary date whichever is the later. To avoid doubt if the Landlord does not increase the rent in any year this will not affect the Landlord’s rights to increase the Rent in subsequent years.”propertyrental said:GDB2222 said:The RPI figures are published a month in arrears. Is there anything in the rent agreement about how to deal with this, for example use the latest published increase, even though that’s for an earlier month?
What date does/did the fixed term end?
Is the LL demanding the new rent from the date the fixed term ends/ended, or some other date?
What date did the LL serve notice of the new rent on the T?
Well given the wording from OP, I think its debatable whether the clause fully specifies a binding rent increase.
* On one hand, there is a decently strong argument that a reasonable interpretation of 'based on RPI' from latest published rate, or 2 months before, whichever is in favour of the tenant due to ambiguity,
* On the other hand, there's uncertainty in which month is used, and the AST mentions what happens if the LL doesn't raise the rent, which arguably suggests its not fully agreed already.
So worth discussing with the LL, and trying to come to an agreement on the new rent. Then get that agreement in writing, saying that it overrides any prior rent increase clauses. If you can't agree, then OP can decide whether its worth refusing and risking eviction and/or ultimately a judge agreeing wiht the LL on the rent arrears.1 -
Arghhh! I dislike tenancy agreements that try to link rent increases to RPI as they (like many break clauses) are badly written. @Jay_C I would go back to the letting agent asking for evidence as to how they arrived at 10% and the landlord 9%.
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propertyrental said:GDB2222 said:The RPI figures are published a month in arrears. Is there anything in the rent agreement about how to deal with this, for example use the latest published increase, even though that’s for an earlier month?
What date does/did the fixed term end?
Is the LL demanding the new rent from the date the fixed term ends/ended, or some other date?
What date did the LL serve notice of the new rent on the T?No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?1 -
Thank you again for all the comments, with inflation falling, I am assuming I want to perhaps push for any proposed rent increase linked RPI to be alongside the tenancy anniversary date (Feb 2024 would be 1 year)
The agent actually came back with a follow up today, maybe because she saw the news last night
I am following up on the email I sent on the 7th, as the landlord is proposing an anniversary increase below current RPI are you able to accept the new rent or will you be looking to contact the tribunal service?
Additionally I wanted to see if anyone thought there would be any validity putting forward a case for rent rebate for the months where we had issues with no heating and the roof as well ?
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When in Feb 24?
OK so he is relying on (october?) RPI, which gives 3 + months notice.
Whatever the validty of the clause, I don't see how he can use (oct?),so why not ask?
* Date of RPI the LLis relying on
* link to the LL's source for the RPI
Don't respond to the specific Qs you've been asked and don't commit yourself to anything at this stage.
And despite what the agent is saying, the Tribunal is not an option. Any applcation to them will be rejected, not ruled on.
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To clarify, the AST says increases every 12 months, its only been 8 months?
If so, then whats the purpose of the LA's email at this stage, and what are they expecting you to do about it?
I'd just say that
- you understand the terms of the lease
- its premature to agree next years increase 2/3 of the way through the lease.
No need to agree a fixed % now and what you plan to do or not do with challenging it. There's no upside for you.1 -
propertyrental said:When in Feb 24?
OK so he is relying on (october?) RPI, which gives 3 + months notice.
Whatever the validty of the clause, I don't see how he can use (oct?),so why not ask?
* Date of RPI the LLis relying on
* link to the LL's source for the RPI
Don't respond to the specific Qs you've been asked and don't commit yourself to anything at this stage.
And despite what the agent is saying, the Tribunal is not an option. Any applcation to them will be rejected, not ruled on.0
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