neither kitchen nor bathroom have air extractors

Emily_Joy

Chickereeeee said:

Emily_Joy said:

Eldi_Dos said:

Emily_Joy said:

markin said:

Are you also heating that room, bathrooms often don't have a trv to act as a heating bypass.

Yes, I am heating this room (still with the window open). There is a 2m tall towel dryer which gets really hot rather quickly about the same time as the radiators. The bathroom definitely feels rather warm.

Same for the kitchen - there is an even taller vertical radiator.

This just seems wrong on so many levels.
Not good for the planet,not good for your personal finances and not the most comfortable way to deal with the perceived issue.
At the very least reduce the flow temprature if towel rail is getting really hot quickly.Tiny steps and all that.

At this time of the year there will be many garden creatures looking for a environment you are offering so I would not be surprised if you see a influx of them.

I am a bit puzzled. In Finland, Sweden, and Canada when temperature is well below zero and sometimes approaching -40C, people always have heating on and windows slightly open, to heat the house and to ventilate for the fresh air. As for my personal finances, as long as my bill is below £100 I am happy.

I lived there (Sweden) for two years, and didn't find that at all. It was a good few years ago, though.

I dont remember thinking about heating or ventilation at all - everything just seemed comfortable. It was a bit of a shock coming back at Christmas from Sweden (-20c) to UK (+2c). MUCH more uncomfortable here.

This is probably because the dew point was more accurately calculated (and is more stable) in the area. 

Emily_Joy

@Eldi_Dos I think I should clarify that by opening the window in bathroom I actually mean opening the (smaller) top panel.

twopenny

My last Edwardian house didn't have extractors. Tbe room space and build seemed to accommodate. Also weather permitting, I open windows and doors a bit and not for long.
New place I've never used the extractors. Top little window opened a tad bathroom for 10-30mins, bedroom half a day and kitchen door when clement. No condensation.

Now if you have a family or other half that fills the bath, in the shower for mins + or boil a stew for 2hrs in mid winter then extractors may be needed - but with todays situation and cooking it's not necessary.

Emily_Joy

twopenny said:

Now if you have a family or other half that fills the bath, in the shower for mins + or boil a stew for 2hrs in mid winter then extractors may be needed - but with todays situation and cooking it's not necessary.

The OH is abroad till Christmas... and we use a slow cooker for stews.

markin

Emily_Joy said:

Eldi_Dos said:

Emily_Joy said:

markin said:

Are you also heating that room, bathrooms often don't have a trv to act as a heating bypass.

Yes, I am heating this room (still with the window open). There is a 2m tall towel dryer which gets really hot rather quickly about the same time as the radiators. The bathroom definitely feels rather warm.

Same for the kitchen - there is an even taller vertical radiator.

This just seems wrong on so many levels.
Not good for the planet,not good for your personal finances and not the most comfortable way to deal with the perceived issue.
At the very least reduce the flow temprature if towel rail is getting really hot quickly.Tiny steps and all that.

At this time of the year there will be many garden creatures looking for a environment you are offering so I would not be surprised if you see a influx of them.

I am a bit puzzled. In Finland, Sweden, and Canada when temperature is well below zero and sometimes approaching -40C, people always have heating on and windows slightly open, to heat the house and to ventilate for the fresh air. As for my personal finances, as long as my bill is below £100 I am happy.

Not sure thats true at all, They are big on home ventilation systems and retro fitting it to old houses.

 

_Jem_

Eldi_Dos said:

_Jem_ said:

My parents have a towel rail in their bathroom and it does get rather hot in there from what I can remember. Placing towels over it helped. I think they also had the small window open a bit during the day when the heating was on. Reducing the flow didn't help.

Sorry to come across as the village grouch but...

If the room is getting too warm insulating the radiator and regulating temprature by opening the window is not the best way to deal with it.
Far better to adjust thermostat and flow temprature. This will be better for the planet, better for your parents finances and hoprfully more comfortable for them.

You can come across how you want 😂

As said adjusting the flow didn't make any difference. I would imagine it's the towel rail at fault probably too big for the size of the bathroom. I think they always had the small window open during the day obviously not at night when it's colder.

Emily_Joy

markin said:

Not sure thats true at all, They are big on home ventilation systems and retro fitting it to old houses.

This is right, however, many older buildings still have radiators without trv, and no ventilation system installed.

MouldyOldDough

You need a "heat recovery" fan - running almost continuously use about 4 watts and don't lose heat from the house
https://www.airconcentre.co.uk/collections/heat-recovery-extractor-fans

Emily_Joy

I am not worried about the loss of heat. I am more worried about causing long-term damage to the house which will be expensive to fix. It happened several times in the previous house that we left the bathroom window fully open (I mean window, it didn't have panes) with door open and heating on. This didn't cause any harm and didn't seem to affect the bills in any way. 
We do not drive (and do not own a car, since we moved to London for a few years in 2014), I am inclined to believe that the damage caused to the environment/our finances by having the small window panes open with heating on for a few hours is offset. 

_Jem_

Emily_Joy said:

 I am inclined to believe that the damage caused to the environment/our finances by having the small window panes open with heating on for a few hours is offset. 

It's your home and money so heat it anyway you want to. If it works for you that's what counts.