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edited 12 November 2023 at 1:44AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
It appears the driver of a car registered to me but owned by someone else paid for parking but entered the VRM of a different vehicle to which they also have access, at a hotel car park (Holiday Inn Express, Filton) infested by ParkMaven using ANPR scameras.

No NTK was ever received by me. I've lived in the same house for 41 years, and the V5C details are correct, so there is no reason why the PPC's letters shouldn't have arrived.

The only reason I know about this is because DCB Ltd have sent me a starter kit to make paper briquettes for my wood burner. It includes the fake £70 add on, so in my complaints/communications I will mention how PM got the idea from Mr Osner to add on fake amounts just to scam more money out of motorists.

I'll start with Plan A of course, plus an SAR to get the NTK.

Watch this space.

 
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Wonderful that it's going the way of DCB!  :D
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  • Fruitcake
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    edited 12 November 2023 at 2:01AM
    I have been going around the Parkmaven website in circles for the last hour and cannot find an email address for them at all, let alone a DPO contact email address, nor even any details about their DPO.
    They do have a privacy policy, but I cannot for the life of me find a way to send an SAR.

    Complaint sent to the BPA. My breath, holding it, not going to.
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  • KeithP
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    edited 12 November 2023 at 2:12AM
    Fruitcake said:
    I have been going around the Parkmaven website in circles for the last hour and cannot find an email address for them at all, let alone a DPO contact email address, nor even any details about their DPO.
    They do have a privacy policy, but I cannot for the life of me find a way to send an SAR.
    I agree with you.

    Having looked at their Privacy Policy, the closest I can get is...
    However, there are no 'details provided below'.
  • KeithP
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    edited 12 November 2023 at 2:28AM
    Whilst looking on their website at their Complaints Policy, I did discover a postal address for their DPO...
    ...you can contact our data protection officer via post at ParkMaven Limited, Kemp House 160, City Road, London, EC1V 2NX. 

    ...but only a postal address.


    But, and it is a big but, accessing their Complaints Policy via the link on their BPA AoS members entry - www.britishparking.co.uk/bpa-approved-operators - one is directed towards a different policy.

    That shows an email address for complaints - 


    So, Park Maven's public facing Complaints Policy prevents people complaining by email, but the version of their Complains Policy that they have told the BPA about does have an email address in it.

    Thus telling the BPA "look, we are doing the right thing", when in fact they are not.
  • Castle
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    KeithP said:
    Whilst looking on their website at their Complaints Policy, I did discover a postal address for their DPO...
    ...you can contact our data protection officer via post at ParkMaven Limited, Kemp House 160, City Road, London, EC1V 2NX. 

    ...but only a postal address.


    But, and it is a big but, accessing their Complaints Policy via the link on their BPA AoS members entry - www.britishparking.co.uk/bpa-approved-operators - one is directed towards a different policy.

    That shows an email address for complaints - 


    So, Park Maven's public facing Complaints Policy prevents people complaining by email, but the version of their Complains Policy that they have told the BPA about does have an email address in it.

    Thus telling the BPA "look, we are doing the right thing", when in fact they are not.
    According to Companies House they moved their registered office address from Kemp House, (which is just a mail drop anyway), to "Studio 4, Import Building 2 Clove Crescent London E14 2BE" on 2 December 2021 and in April 2023 they moved again to "Level 4 2 Redman Place London E20 1JQ".

    (The ICO Register gives another address;-Level39,1 Canada Square, London, E14 5AB.)
  • Le_Kirk
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    Surely a complaint to the ICO is in order?
  • Fruitcake
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    I used the support@ email address to send the SAR to Parkmaven, and a complaint via the BPA complaint portal about their member's lack of DPO contact details.

    I've got a vague memory that certain information must be posted on a company website: perhaps it was The Companies Act. I need to do some digging.

    I'll send a postal SAR as backup and a complaint about the dodgy privacy details by post as well. Once I've done that, I can complain to the ICO.
    The website states complaints must be made within 56 days of the incident taking place. How convenient. The alleged parking event was over 56 days before I received the debt collection letter. It's almost as if it was deliberate.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    So you can't complain after 2 months?!
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  • KeithP
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    edited 13 November 2023 at 1:12AM
    Fruitcake said:
    The website states complaints must be made within 56 days of the incident taking place. How convenient.
    Yes, that's true, it does say that.
    But it doesn't say "within 56 days of the alleged parking incident". It just talks about 'the incident' - whatever that is.

    Perhaps you could work on the basis that 'the incident' that you are complaining about is 'the incident' when you discovered they failed to specify their DPO's contact details... i.e. yesterday.   
    ;) 


    I've just looked again and there are other differences between the Complaints Policy accessed via their website and the one accessed via the complaints link on the BPA's AOS Members list.
    All of the discrepancies concern missing email addresses on ParkMaven's website. 

    For completeness, the following email addresses are missing from ParkMaven's version of their Complaints Policy but are clearly shown on the BPA's version...
    1) support@parkmaven.com - already mentioned,
    2) complaints@parkmaven.com  - might become useful, and
    3) the elusive one we were looking for earlier - data@parkmaven.com - which, as described on the BPA's version and reproduced below, is claimed to be that of their Data Protection Officer...
    For more information on how we use your information you can contact our data protection officer on data@parkmaven.com.
    And just to make it perfectly clear, that very same sentence is replaced on the ParkMaven website with...
    For more information on how we use your information you can contact our data protection officer via post at ParkMaven Limited, Kemp House 160, City Road, London, EC1V 2NX. 
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