Car damaged during MOT

ArbitraryRandom

They have to continue applying increasing force until maximum effort is achieved or until the wheel locks/slips... so that's more than you'd use to 'gently' coast to a stop day to day. 

But there's not really much point arguing with us on here - You and the garage obviously disagree, so now what you need to do is prove it (advised above, you can pay for an independent repair/report and if it supports your case then add the costs to your claim) and if the garage still disagree you can take them to court. 

Ayr_Rage

@Calios1 as above you have to push hard enough to stop the rollers and if in doing so the brake line failed then it was not up to standard.

The examiner did not BREAK the BRAKE system, it failed during the test, please accept that, get them fixed and move on down the road.

tedted

Gradually depress the service brake again, this time until maximum effort is achieved, or until the wheel locks and slips on the rollers. Stop the rollers.this is what is done for the test

Calios1

Ayr_Rage said:

@Calios1 as above you have to push hard enough to stop the rollers and if in doing so the brake line failed then it was not up to standard.

The examiner did not BREAK the BRAKE system, it failed during the test, please accept that, get them fixed and move on down the road.

There is no evidence that the brakes failed.

Wonka_2

Calios1 said:

Ayr_Rage said:

@Calios1 as above you have to push hard enough to stop the rollers and if in doing so the brake line failed then it was not up to standard.

The examiner did not BREAK the BRAKE system, it failed during the test, please accept that, get them fixed and move on down the road.

There is no evidence that the brakes failed.

So you're suggesting the MOT tester is lying ? 

What's the car age/history ? Is corrosion mentioned on any of the previous MOT's ? Does the MOT tester know you/the car or have a vested interested in lying ? 

ArbitraryRandom

Calios1 said:

Ayr_Rage said:

@Calios1 as above you have to push hard enough to stop the rollers and if in doing so the brake line failed then it was not up to standard.

The examiner did not BREAK the BRAKE system, it failed during the test, please accept that, get them fixed and move on down the road.

There is no evidence that the brakes failed.

Now you're suggesting they're lying about your brakes not working rather than how they ended up that way? 

I can tell you quite definitively they're not going to let you drive that car away whatever you think - so you will need to either pay them for a repair or pay for the car to be transported to another garage where it can be independently checked... 

Ayr_Rage

Calios1 said:

TELLIT01 said:

The only aspect of the MOT station's reaction I would question is saying the the car owner can't see the failed part.  That should have been retained so they could show the car owner the problem.

Exactly. The examiner stated that the pipe was rusty, but said that it could not be seen. He said brake fluid was leaking everywhere but when I looked it wasn't. So I asked what the evidence was that it was a rust brake pipe that caused the brakes to break, and he said "because the brakes don't work." 
So there is no evidence that a rusty or old part caused the issue.

Your own post confirms they failed "because the brakes don't work"

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

Calios1 said:

Ayr_Rage said:

@Calios1 as above you have to push hard enough to stop the rollers and if in doing so the brake line failed then it was not up to standard.

The examiner did not BREAK the BRAKE system, it failed during the test, please accept that, get them fixed and move on down the road.

There is no evidence that the brakes failed.

OP the only alternative option here other than just paying for the repair is to take the car to another garage and get their opinion.

If they agree the pipe was on it's last legs then it's probably best forgotten about, if they think it's been damaged due to a lack of care (or deliberately) then you'd have a better standing to claim the cost of repair.

Proof with these things doesn't have to be 100% but rather more than less, currently you have an expert (the garage) vs an non-expert (yourself) and you need to balance that situation by having an expert on your side. 

As none of us can see the hose none of us can really say more than the very basic, if it was knackered then it was knackered and these things happen, if it wasn't knackered and there was a lack of care then you may have a case  

born_again

Calios1 said:

Ayr_Rage said:

@Calios1 as above you have to push hard enough to stop the rollers and if in doing so the brake line failed then it was not up to standard.

The examiner did not BREAK the BRAKE system, it failed during the test, please accept that, get them fixed and move on down the road.

There is no evidence that the brakes failed.

The fact it failed the MOT shows they did.. As they did not meet the required standard, due to a pipe failing.

Just where is the car now?
As clearly it should not have been driven away from test station in that condition.

Jumblebumble

Calios1 said:

molerat said:

Your only option then is to get the vehicle trailered away to an independent garage and get them to examine the vehicle and prepare a report to take back to the testing station.

There cannot really be anything a tester could do to damage the brake system, by applying the brakes either gently or severely, that could not have occurred under day to day driving conditions.

It is not up to the testing station to investigate what and where the failure actually is, their responsibility is simply to report the facts - the brakes have failed the test.

Day to day driving the brakes were fine. I know that because I'd been driving it day to day for thousands of miles.

So what!
Unless you are trying to suggest sudden failures of systems in cars never happen or have anything whatever to do with how many miles were driven before.