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Property purchase solicitor report - neighbour planned extension - no right to light?

maximise
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keen to hear your experiences with neighbour extensions - I don't think there is any cause for concern, other than the potential for building works noise etc.
out of interest I've just received a groundsure report from the solicitor regarding the property I've had an offer accepted on,
next-door neighbour has planning permission granted to extend single-storey 4m out back of house, and this was over 12 months ago now.
- both properties detached with each having a footpath width (2 widths) of separation, plenty of space between..
- I believe back of houses are aligned/ flush with each other:
- The property I've had an offer accepted on has an existing conservatory protruding 3m out the back of the house.
- The next-door property plan shows build to protrude 4m out the back of house - (1m longer than purchase property)
- I'm new to the 45 degree rule - in a hypothetical scenario could each neighbour keep extending longer than each other, as long as 45 degree rule is maintained or is it strictly based on the original property wall line.
Look forward to learning more, many thanks
out of interest I've just received a groundsure report from the solicitor regarding the property I've had an offer accepted on,
next-door neighbour has planning permission granted to extend single-storey 4m out back of house, and this was over 12 months ago now.
- both properties detached with each having a footpath width (2 widths) of separation, plenty of space between..
- I believe back of houses are aligned/ flush with each other:
- The property I've had an offer accepted on has an existing conservatory protruding 3m out the back of the house.
- The next-door property plan shows build to protrude 4m out the back of house - (1m longer than purchase property)
- I'm new to the 45 degree rule - in a hypothetical scenario could each neighbour keep extending longer than each other, as long as 45 degree rule is maintained or is it strictly based on the original property wall line.
Look forward to learning more, many thanks
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The 4m has almost certainly been chosen as the maximum under Permitted Development rules.
If you follow this link.....
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/permitted-development-rights-for-householders-technical-guidance
....you may very well come to regret your last sentence.
Regards
Tet
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Thank you, have been trying to estimate the impact of the extension on sunlight,
property rear is SSW, south-south-west facing.
looking at the next-door extension plan, it doesn't specify height but to scale, looks just under 3m in height.
I've found two sun light on map simulators, called shadowcalculator and shademap
suggests half the conservatory likely to be cast shadow for 3+ hrs in the morning sun, but it's difficult to simulate and appreciate what it would look like in real-life, would be good to hear any of your experience0 -
brief update - next-door extension plan looks perfectly reasonable to me, and the Local Council Planning Department Site Visit Report says:
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"There is no breach ofthe 45 degree line from neighbouringproperties, and the development has anacceptable impact on the neighbours interms of outlook and light. The proposeddevelopment is considered acceptable andin accordance with Local Plan Policy"
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but I've just found a statement in the solicitor the property report which sounds strange, I'll query this line with solicitor on Monday,"The title contains a declaration which stops the house acquiring any right to light over neighbouring property. This means that you would not be able to object to any development on the basis of the diminished light."
Not sure how this can be. Otherwise what's to stop a neighbour build all down their garden?
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- Rights over the PropertyThese are described in the Land Registry Title Information.Houses may sometimes enjoy a right of light over adjoining land or be subject to aneighbour’s right of light. A right of light is a legal right for the windows in a house to receivelight across a neighbour’s property. Rights of light might prevent an owner from building anextension which would obstruct an adjoining owner’s rights.When houses are built as part of a development it is common for the transfer deed to containa declaration that the property sold shall not acquire rights over an adjoining land, except forany rights specifically granted. The title contains a declaration which stops the houseacquiring any right to light over neighbouring property. This means that you would not beable to object to any development on the basis of the diminished light.There is a reserved right to the neighbouring property, out of which this property wasoriginally transferred to continue to run any drainage pipes and other service media that maybe running over or under the land for the benefit of that adjoining property. All this is sayingis that the property can continue to benefit from any such service media that runs over orunder the land you are purchasing.There is a reference to easements and/or quasi-easements reserved but which are notspecifically defined. This reserves to the owners of neighbouring or adjoining land all therights which you would expect to come with the property, such as the benefit of drainage orservices that may cross the property you are buying.
- CovenantsIf restrictive covenants are imposed on the owner of the Property when the plot was sold bythe original house builder and if similar covenants were imposed on all the plots in the street,these covenants may still be enforceable by one house owner against another. If youpurchase the property, you may be obliged to observe them, and you may be entitled torequire the neighbouring owners to observe them. Any which affect the property are shownin the Charges Register in the Title Information. Even if these covenants are not strictlyenforceable in law, planning restrictions imposed by the Local Authority may in practice havea similar effect.A positive covenant may also have been imposed requiring the owner of the Property tomaintain fences. If that is the case whilst it is unlikely that anyone could legally enforcecompliance with this covenant, in practice you should be prepared to maintain such fencesand the other fences bounding the Property, at your own cost. Any such fences I haveindicated on the plan by the letter “T” inwards.
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maximise said:
but I've just found a statement in the solicitor the property report which sounds strange, I'll query this line with solicitor on Monday,"The title contains a declaration which stops the house acquiring any right to light over neighbouring property. This means that you would not be able to object to any development on the basis of the diminished light."
Not sure how this can be. Otherwise what's to stop a neighbour build all down their garden?Planning law.The amount of their garden they can build on as permitted development is restricted, and if they apply for planning consent the planners will have regard to the impact of the proposed development on neighbouring properties.If I read the solicitor's text correctly, they are talking about the more specific 'diminished light' claim under the Right to Light Act(s) - this is a form of easement and isn't the same as your right to make a representation (e.g. objection) if the neighbours make a planning application.But check with your solicitor to make sure that is what they mean.2 -
Also the covenant would not prohibit objecting to a planning application on any grounds.1
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The planners, perhaps surprisingly, are well versed in planning law, so they don’t usually take much notice of objections from neighbours.It is a requirement to consult, so they go through the process, but often the comments are simply classified as for or against the planning application, and it makes little difference what the neighbours write.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?1
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