Help Employing family member under £123 a week

I am half employed and half self employed and I am wanting to employ a family member for about 8 hours a week for now. 
I am not quite sure on what to do, I have tried following the step by step employing someone for the first time on the gov website but I'm still not sure
It says I don't need to register as an employer as it's under £123 a week so I'm a little unsure what to do next as there doesn't seem to be any guidelines for employing under the £123 threshold.
I know I need payroll - what's the best for just one employee? Free or pay?
on looking they seem to want paye references but I don't need to register for paye as under £123 so I'm a little lost...

so if anyone has some advice on what I should be doing as I'm going round in circles that would be great

thank you

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  • SVaz
    SVaz Posts: 226
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    You don’t need to register as an employer or to run payroll.
    I employ my Wife, currently under the LeL, I simply pay her by bank transfer into her own bank account.  Technically  you are meant to provide payslips.

  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
    Dazed_and_C0nfused Posts: 12,773
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    edited 21 November 2023 at 7:46PM
    Earning under £123 isn't the sole factor, they have to be able to confirm they have no other employment (or maybe no pension income as well).  
  • Andyboy
    Andyboy Posts: 257
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    Why don't you just give them a weekly contract to do work? They could register as a sole trader and do simple annual self assessment.
    Andyboy :idea:
  • SVaz
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    You can’t be self employed if you only do work for one business. 

  • uknick
    uknick Posts: 1,606
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    SVaz said:
    You can’t be self employed if you only do work for one business. 

    IR35, if this is what you're referring to, doesn't cover sole traders.  I'm self employed and have only one client but I pass the tests as to not being an employee.  I chose what work I do, when I do it and how I do it.  I also have no input in running my client's business, etc..



  • norsefox
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    SVaz said:
    You can’t be self employed if you only do work for one business. 

    That's not correct.  There are any number of positions like football referees that work in industries where there is a single monopoly 'employer' but everyone is treated as self-employed.

    Referees (ignoring England football's directly employed individuals) including Scottish football and rugby etc would no doubt love to be treated as employees but HMRC have no interest in challenging the current arrangement.
  • EnPointe
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    Andyboy said:
    Why don't you just give them a weekly contract to do work? They could register as a sole trader and do simple annual self assessment.
    becasue it is  quite clearly not  self employment and would likely all the  HMRC tests 
  • uknick
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    EnPointe said:
    Andyboy said:
    Why don't you just give them a weekly contract to do work? They could register as a sole trader and do simple annual self assessment.
    becasue it is  quite clearly not  self employment and would likely all the  HMRC tests 
    Did you not read the other comments on this?  It is possible to have one client and be self employed, all depends on what you actually do and how you do it.
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