Parked Self Charging Electric Vehicle in a Train Station Car Park in an Electric Charging Bay

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There was never any intent to "abuse" the system - I honestly didnt think I was doing anything wrong having an electric vehicle, be it a "mild hybrid" or whatever and parking in this place.  I wasnt asking for sympathy and neither am I a "smug abuser of the system"

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@Coupon-mad and @Fruitcake

Here is the photograph of Park Watch's sign at Newton-le-Willows train station - they say its private land - I am sure that someone said that its different when parking on train stations ?

Fruitcake

Even zooming in, I can't read the Ts and Cs regarding charging bays, so the signage is therefore inadequate. If you could get closer to get a clear picture of the fine print, it might help.
The most important thing though is to find out if it is a railway assets where railway byelaws apply. If that is the case, then the keeper cannot be held liable. That's why it is important not to identify the driver.

However, as others have said, parking in a charging bay but not charging the vehicle is not on. It is the motorists' responsibility that they do not abuse the car parking facilities.

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Fruitcake said:

Even zooming in, I can't read the Ts and Cs regarding charging bays, so the signage is therefore inadequate. If you could get closer to get a clear picture of the fine print, it might help.
The most important thing though is to find out if it is a railway assets where railway byelaws apply. If that is the case, then the keeper cannot be held liable. That's why it is important not to identify the driver.

However, as others have said, parking in a charging bay but not charging the vehicle is not on. It is the motorists' responsibility that they do not abuse the car parking facilities.

Thanks a lot @fr@Fruitcake - I will try and get a closer look.  How would I find out if railway byelaws apply.  Yes I agree - it was an absolutely genuine mistake and not one that was made on purpose.  I appreciate some have pointed that out - most more eloquently than others who are just down right rude about it.

Umkomaas

How would I find out if railway byelaws apply

Start here. 

https://www.merseyrail.org/media/5iwdk5oa/merseyrail-byelaws-accessible.pdf

In view of @Castle's post below, try this:

https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/legal/fines-penalties

A bit confusing (what isn't in this game) given the signage alludes to Merseytravel involvement). 

And from an EV owner, a polite plea not to block my ability to charge my car, especially given the very sparse availability of charging points across the country, something ICE owners do not face in terms of petrol stations. 

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Umkomaas said:

How would I find out if railway byelaws apply

Start here. 

https://www.merseyrail.org/media/5iwdk5oa/merseyrail-byelaws-accessible.pdf

And from an EV owner, a polite plea not to block my ability to charge my car, especially given the very sparse availability of charging points across the country, something ICE owners do not face in terms of petrol stations. 

Thanks so much @Umkomaas - it absolutely wasnt intentional as a "mild hybrid" car owner.  Thank you for being polite.

Castle

The station is run by Northern
Newton-le-Willows Station | National Rail

Umkomaas

Castle said:

The station is run by Northern
Newton-le-Willows Station | National Rail

See my amended post above from 11:53am. 

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Umkomaas said:

Castle said:

The station is run by Northern
Newton-le-Willows Station | National Rail

See my amended post above from 11:53am. 

Car Parking

Operator

Merseytravel

Car Parking Availability

• Car Parking Availability Monday to Sunday: Yes

Spaces

400 spaces

Accessible spaces

32 spaces

Accessible car park equipment

Yes

Impaired mobility set down/pick up points available

No

Car park CCTV

Yes

Parking charges

Parking is free

Grumpy_chap

the_wheels_have_fallen_of said:

@Coupon-mad and @Fruitcake

Here is the photograph of Park Watch's sign at Newton-le-Willows train station - they say its private land - I am sure that someone said that its different when parking on train stations ?

I think the OP has been rather disingenuous in trying to suggest that their "self-charging hybrid" (i.e. no plug but uses petrol) car is an EV and won't have earned any sympathy votes by doing so.

The OP seems to accept they parked in an EV charging bay. 
The photo that has been shared seems to be general signage relating to the car park as a whole.
Is there any more local / specific signage for the EV charging bays?  (Signs or road markings or both.)  I would expect that there would be in the same way as disabled parking bays, staff parking, loading only, drop-off / pick-up or maintenance vehicle bays would have specific indications in addition to the more general car-park wide signage.

Parking in an EV bay is probably cheap at £40 for the day as the operator has suffered a genuine loss of income by the charging facility being obstructed as they cannot sell the electricity.  As others have said, it is like parking at a petrol pump and then disappearing.