UKPC/DCBL: Charge for Overstaying by 25 Minutes at Lewisham Retail Park

patient_dream

matcha said:

That would have been nice to add, but unfortunately I had already submitted the defence. Maybe I can work it into the witness statement.

That's OK, if it gets as far as court, doubtful as it's UKPC with a rubbish case and totally rubbish signs

What you missed in the WS, you can use in a crib sheet to discuss with the judge 

THAT WOULD BE ....
* Complete lack of information about the claim ... CEL v Chan
* SIGNS that are not readable unless you have binoculars
* DAMAGES, what damages ? Is this to mislead the court to disgiuse debt collection charges. Who gets paid the damages amount claimed
* YASMIN MIA  ... there is a major problem?, she signs this off as a statement of truth. Clearly Yasmin knows nothing about the claim and as such is in contempt of court

One day a judge is going to jump all over Yasmin Mia and DCBL and you could make this happen

matcha

On 16th November, I recived the template email from DCB legal saying that "our client intends to proceed with the claim", offering to settle, and attaching the claimant's N180 Directions Questionnaire.

I'll just wait for my own Directions Questionnaire from the CCBC.

Coupon-mad

matcha said:

On 16th November, I received the template email from DCB legal saying that "our client intends to proceed with the claim", offering to settle, and attaching the claimant's N180 Directions Questionnaire.

I'll just wait for my own Directions Questionnaire from the CCBC.

Yes, as expected - to be ignored - as stated in the first 12 steps in the Template Defence thread.

But please please please find time to do this new Call for Evidence this month:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80375249/#Comment_80375249

The Committee invites evidence on:

• What the current level of delay in the County Court is

• The ways in which the County Court engages with litigants in person, and how this could be improved

• The causes of action giving rise to claims in the County Court

• What future reforms to the County Court should be considered.

Please also state that private parking firms and their bulk litigators are the main problem as far as small claims delays are concerned, as the dominate and clog up court lists.

Parking claim numbers are rising every year and will make up about a third of all small claims in 2023, based on the 2022 figures that the MoJ divulged in the DLUHC's recent Parking Code of Practice Call for Evidence:
https://www.gov.uk/government/calls-for-evidence/private-parking-code-of-practice-call-for-evidence#:~:text=The%20call%20for%20evidence%20is,help%20the%20decision%2Dmaking%20process.

About half a million parking claims are made every year and all this MUST STOP.  The MoJ must separate parking cases with a new pre-action protocol requiring use of ADR instead of inflated debt demands.

These generic roboclaims churn through the system, clogging up court time over meritless rip-off PCNs where the POC are boilerplate and lack even the most basic details of the alleged breach (please show your own Claim Form as evidence) and attach CEL v Chan and say parking claim bulk litigators should be banned from the county court system as vexatious litigants.

You want to change things? This Committee is your voice.  The Government is already regulating the private parking industry, so they are listening and are aware of the scourge of unfair PCNs from rogues and bulk litigators.  They are inviting evidence not rants or opinion so we need people like you to respond, who are currently caught up in a PPC claim and can attach actual claim evidence that shows the farce that is happening and that you know DCBLegal will discontinue, because they are using the courts as a cheap and lucrative form of debt collection.

Interested parties have until 14 December to make a submission to the committee.

matcha

I just receieved a call from DCB Legal, offering to settle.

She said UKPC are willing to reduce the amount from ~£250 to £210.
I obviously didn't accept.
She put me on hold for a very brief time and then said that the client is willing to reduce the amoun to £120 to close the case.
I still didn't accept. But she said I have 7 days to think about it.
No chance.

Le_Kirk

Preparatory to a discontinuance methinks!

Umkomaas

matcha said:

I just receieved a call from DCB Legal, offering to settle.

She said UKPC are willing to reduce the amount from ~£250 to £210.
I obviously didn't accept.
She put me on hold for a very brief time and then said that the client is willing to reduce the amoun to £120 to close the case.
I still didn't accept. But she said I have 7 days to think about it.
No chance.

I think I might be including you in the following thread in the next few days! 🤓

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377263/dcb-legal-record-of-private-parking-court-claim-discontinuations/p1

matcha

I certainly hope so! That thread is what gave me the initial kick to start fighting this after I first read the newbies thread.

Coupon-mad

matcha said:

I certainly hope so! That thread is what gave me the initial kick to start fighting this after I first read the newbies thread.

Great stuff! Nearly over.

Please find time to do this Justice Inquiry before it closes:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80375249/#Comment_80375249

The Committee invites evidence on:

• What the current level of delay in the County Court is

• The ways in which the County Court engages with litigants in person, and how this could be improved

• The causes of action giving rise to claims in the County Court

• What future reforms to the County Court should be considered.

Please tell them that private parking firms and their bulk litigators are the problem as far as small claims delays are concerned, as they dominate court lists. Parking claim numbers are rising every year and will make up about a third of all small claims in 2023, based on the 2022 figures that the MoJ divulged in the DLUHC's recent Parking Code of Practice Call for Evidence:

https://www.gov.uk/government/calls-for-evidence/private-parking-code-of-practice-call-for-evidence#:~:text=The%20call%20for%20evidence%20is,help%20the%20decision%2Dmaking%20process.

The MoJ must now be informed to urgently separate parking cases with a new pre-action protocol (requiring use of ADR instead of inflated debt demands and bulk litigators who want court). It should be a last resort but litigation is the first aim of firms like DCB Legal.
They state in various articles that bulk litigation is their company aim.

Tell the Committee about your claim and show the Claim Form (in a word document).

And show them the link to. @Umkomaas' thread of over 230 discontinuances by DCB Legal in just over a year.

Say you KNOW that your case will be discontinued because every well-defended DCB Legal case is.  They aim to attend no hearings (except lucrative multi-PCN cases or where the victim has not submitted a Witness Statement due to not seeing or understanding the small print on the back of the Court Letter).

Yet you are still being intimidated by DCB Legal bluffing, and will have to submit a WS bundle at your own time & expense, before they will walk away scot free because NO-ONE is stopping this repeated/deliberate behaviour.

And if you wanted to get costs you'd have to pay a fee to apply and would be refused because apparently abusing the court and stringing 'parking scam' victims along like this isn't seen as unreasonable conduct.

The whole system is a nasty joke and the courts (and consumers) are being used and abused by firms making a mint (and it's not just the parking operators).  This is a hidden (unknown to many people) scandal affecting hundreds of thousands of people every year.

Please tell the Committee that the private parking legislative framework needs to be removed from the county court altogether.  To protect consumers from unfair CCJs like this, which are rinsing millions p.a. from the pockets of ordinary motorists and ruining credit ratings.

Ideally, parking cases should NEVER go to county court and should not be able to affect people's credit rating.

Please add your voice.

Interested parties have until 17th January to make a submission to the committee.

 

matcha

I emailed my Directions Questionnaire on 3rd January, and received the acknowledgment immediately.
However, it is still not showing in MCOL.

How long does it usually take to appear in MCOL?

Coupon-mad

About six weeks.

Have you done the Inquiry?  I'm doing it today.  Extended until 17 January.