Does anyone please have historic average electric standing charges?

sonypc100

Hello

I am looking for data from 2009 to the present day of the average standing charges for domestic electric use.

I appreciate every supplier charges a differing amount so its a ball park figure for each year.

I've had a google but not found anything as yet.

Thanks

ArbitraryRandom

You might struggle with that one.

IIRC, pre-2013 and the 'simplifying of tariffs', there was no requirement (and it wasn't particularly common) for suppliers to levy a standing charge - all costs were included in the unit rates. 

MultiFuelBurner

@QrizB may be the answer I think I saw them post something similar recently.

Found it but maybe some others can add further back

2019: 28p/day

2020: 24p/day

2021: 25p/day

2022: 46p/day

2023: 53p/day

twopenny

Interesting. I did some googling but the government or business documents relating to 2009 don't include the standing charge.

QrizB

The numbers I shared are the national average for the max SC permitted under the Ofgem cap. These numbers were taken from the vavious public documents on Ofgem's website:

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/master-publications-library

However, prior to 2022 or so, many suppliers were offering daily standing charges lower than the Ofgem cap.

If you want to know what you were actually paying, you'll need to check your bills for details of the tariffs.

For example:

• in 2013 I was on "nPower Go Fix 8" with a <10p/day standing charge.
• in 2018, I was on OFTM Whack! April with a zero standing charge.

If the goal is to split your actual costs for the garage supply with the owners of the other garage, you'll have to dig out your bills.

markin

If the op went to court would they let him/her back charge more than 6 years? or 12 years?

ArbitraryRandom

markin said:

If the op went to court would they let him/her back charge more than 6 years? or 12 years?

No, but they aren't going to court (hopefully)... so it's between them and the neighbour to agree a figure they're both happy with using whatever method they want. 

Bark01

Standing charges haven't always been a thing. Suppliers used to offer banded tariffs where the first x units were more expensive than the rest. They were certainly a big thing ~2009 and outlawed by ofgem as part of RMR maybe around 2015

ArbitraryRandom

Bark01 said:

Standing charges haven't always been a thing. Suppliers used to offer banded tariffs where the first x units were more expensive than the rest. They were certainly a big thing ~2009 and outlawed by ofgem as part of RMR maybe around 2015

Not outlawed - there's still a couple of suppliers (Utilita and Ebico), they just aren't very competitive for the majority of households who use more than a couple of units a day. 

Scot_39

Why start another thread ?

As sure this will be linked easily enough by many  - to your garage supply issue.

You have almost zero legal chance of recovering any money for all of the 14 past years - since you moved in.  Even more so without your actual bills.

And may easily find yourself on the wrong side of law if try to bill without them.

Overstimate them even by a penny - and thats an illegal action on your part - under the resale rules

And the owner of the other "flat"/"garage" is 100% legally entitled to proof said moneys were paid and the exact rate for which you paid them.

Not some guesstimate of past from somewhere in the country with some supplier on some payment basis - on some random deal basis - from the Internet.



And perhaps in the spirit of your discussions -  on the basis they have agreed to supply that garage from flat above -  rather than the metered supply in it - assuming it belongs to that flat - otherwise that's not a viable solution either -  chalk the past down to your own erroneous assumptions.

As in part you have failed to realise what you were in fact paying for.

Scot_39

Bark01 said:

Standing charges haven't always been a thing. Suppliers used to offer banded tariffs where the first x units were more expensive than the rest. They were certainly a big thing ~2009 and outlawed by ofgem as part of RMR maybe around 2015

Only technically not 100% from iirc c2013/4) Bill enactment to c2016 revision to reallow it.

Before many collapses there were at least 5 zero SC suppliers, on some review sites, MSE now only list 2.

And one of those - just like say the banded tariffs - simply recovers it anyway - and a bit mors on top iirc - by charging much more for 1st 2 units a day.