Claim Form from DCB Legal Received

Emerald_111

Hi all,

I’ve received a claim form from DCB Legal, dated 10th October 2023. Have read through the guidance notes and am about to submit an AOS but would like some advice before I proceed. Here are the details of what has happened so far:

·     I received a PCN from UKPC for parking over a white line with the space next to me in a retail park in Stevenage on 4th February 2023.

·     At some point within 28 days I submitted an appeal via their website (unfortunately I can’t find a copy of my response!).

·     On 22nd March, UKPC confirmed I’d lost the appeal and instructed I pay the charge or make a further appeal through Poplar. At this point, I ignored it.

·     I then received 2 letters from ZZPS for a charge of £170 dated 27th April and 16th May, which I again, ignored.

·     I then received 2 letters from GCTT requesting payment of £170 dated 30th May and 13th June.

·     I then received a Letter of Claim from DCB Legal Ltd dated 1st September requesting payment within 30 days.

I’ve now received a Claim form dated 10th October from the Civil National on behalf of the claimant, UK Parking Control Ltd from DCB Legal Ltd. The are now claiming for the amount of £263.52!

My concern is that I have already implicated myself by admission to being the driver when I made the appeal. Also thinking should I just pay it as I want to avoid getting a CCJ at all costs!

Any advice on what step I should take now would be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Le_Kirk

What is written on the N1 claim form under Particulars of claim?  It is likely that they are sparse particulars and that is what you defend against.

UncleThomasCobley

You can guarantee that if DCB Legal filed the claim, the PoC will have failed to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(e) and Practice Direction Part 16.7.5. That makes it extremely likely that the claim will be struck out at allocation stage if you follow the advice and use the template defence.

Do not worry about the fact that you have admitted to being the driver. That only applies if UKPC did not rely on PoFA. They most likely did, so, not an issue.

If you mistakenly think that you can somehow get a CCJ and so should pay the already inflated charge, you are either fool with money to spare or need a bit of education about civil law and CCJs. Nobody who follows the advice on here pays a penny to the intellectually malnourished duo of UKPC/DCB Legal.

If this is not thrown out at allocation stage, you can bet money that they will discontinue before it ever gets to a hearing if it is robustly defended using the template defence. Even in the incredibly remote chance that you lost, you would pay less than what they are claiming for. Also, if you paid within 30 days of getting a CCJ, it is expunged from your record. So, no risk of following the advice.

Pay up and you become a part of the scam and are marked as a "mug" for future reference by them. Your choice.

Have you fully read the Newbies/FAQ thread? The second post explains in detail what you must to and by when.

If the "issue date" on the claim is 10th of October, then you have until 4pm on Monday 30th of October to file your AoS using the MCOL. There's no advantage to delaying that. You will then have until 4pm on Monday the 13th of November to file your defence. Do not file your defence using the MCOL.

Coupon-mad

 Also thinking should I just pay it as I want to avoid getting a CCJ at all costs!

Errm ... no.  A hard NO.

NOTHING we do puts anyone at risk of a CCJ and people defend claims here every single day.

You WILL NOT get a CCJ.

You will defend and pay nothing.

There won't even be a hearing.

patient_dream

Emerald_111 said:

Hi all,

I’ve received a claim form from DCB Legal, dated 10th October 2023. Have read through the guidance notes and am about to submit an AOS but would like some advice before I proceed. Here are the details of what has happened so far:

·     I received a PCN from UKPC for parking over a white line with the space next to me in a retail park in Stevenage on 4th February 2023.

·     At some point within 28 days I submitted an appeal via their website (unfortunately I can’t find a copy of my response!).

·     On 22nd March, UKPC confirmed I’d lost the appeal and instructed I pay the charge or make a further appeal through Poplar. At this point, I ignored it.

·     I then received 2 letters from ZZPS for a charge of £170 dated 27th April and 16th May, which I again, ignored.

·     I then received 2 letters from GCTT requesting payment of £170 dated 30th May and 13th June.

·     I then received a Letter of Claim from DCB Legal Ltd dated 1st September requesting payment within 30 days.

I’ve now received a Claim form dated 10th October from the Civil National on behalf of the claimant, UK Parking Control Ltd from DCB Legal Ltd. The are now claiming for the amount of £263.52!

My concern is that I have already implicated myself by admission to being the driver when I made the appeal. Also thinking should I just pay it as I want to avoid getting a CCJ at all costs!

Any advice on what step I should take now would be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Welcome to the ridiculous world of money scammers,

You were right to ignore ZZPS .... commonly called the OSNER SCAM

DCBL just love the idiotic rubbish claims by UKPC, and they waste their own time and that of the courts.
DCBL hope with a court claim that you will chicken out and pay. Once they see your WS which this forum will help you with, THEY REALISE YOU ARE NOT A MUG ???

STILL THINKING YOU ARE A MUG, you will get letters offering a deal, maybe a few times which you ignore

As they want you you to chicken out and pay, all of a sudden they chicken out and discontinue..  and most posts on thie following thread are UKPC rubbish which means they don't want to go to court 

DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377263/dcb-legal-record-of-private-parking-court-claim-discontinuations/p1

The first two points are ..
1: UKPC signs are utter rubbish, small print you can only read if you have binoculars and step ladder to read the signs
2: UKPC are supossed to manage car parks but they don't regarding the actual size of the bays which don't take into account the now larger vehicles which you have no option to park over the white line. 

Why would UKPC want to change this when there is profit involved ??

The whole thing is just a scam.  NO PAYING THE CLOWNS

No doubt the claim includes a fake £70 claiming it is damages ??? WHAT RUBBISH ..... and it is signed as true by the infamours YASMIN MIA
We wonder how long it will be before YASMIN MIA IS ordered to appear in court for CONTEMPT OF COURT

As this is another UKPC rubbish case with a so called legal  who thinks you are a mug ? not on this forum, so you play this childish game

It will take time for them to wake up so follow the experienced forum members

DCBL adore sending out letters with a logo .. "Can't pay we'll take it away"
This was the C5 TV junk which has nothing to do with you and never will

SUCH A VERY SAD FIRM

Emerald_111

Le_Kirk said:

What is written on the N1 claim form under Particulars of claim?  It is likely that they are sparse particulars and that is what you defend against.

Hi Le Kirk,

Thanks for you response. The details on the Particulars of Claim of claim are as follows:

1. The defendant(D) is indebted to the

Claimant (C) for a Parking Charge(s) issued

to vehicle [Reg no.] at Stevenage Leisure Park,

Six Hills WAY, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1

2UA 2. The PCN details are 04/02/2023

1299130351234 3.The PCN(s) was issued on

private land owned or managed by C. The

vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on

Cs signs (the Contract), thus incurring the

PCN(s).4. The driver agreed to pay within 28

days but did not. D is liable as the driver

or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN(s) is

outstanding. The Contract entitles C to

damages.

AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS

1. £170 being the total of the PCN(s) and

damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per

annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts

Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate

of £0.02 until judgment or sooner payment. 3.

Costs and court fees

Emerald_111

UncleThomasCobley said:

You can guarantee that if DCB Legal filed the claim, the PoC will have failed to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(e) and Practice Direction Part 16.7.5. That makes it extremely likely that the claim will be struck out at allocation stage if you follow the advice and use the template defence.

Do not worry about the fact that you have admitted to being the driver. That only applies if UKPC did not rely on PoFA. They most likely did, so, not an issue.

If you mistakenly think that you can somehow get a CCJ and so should pay the already inflated charge, you are either fool with money to spare or need a bit of education about civil law and CCJs. Nobody who follows the advice on here pays a penny to the intellectually malnourished duo of UKPC/DCB Legal.

If this is not thrown out at allocation stage, you can bet money that they will discontinue before it ever gets to a hearing if it is robustly defended using the template defence. Even in the incredibly remote chance that you lost, you would pay less than what they are claiming for. Also, if you paid within 30 days of getting a CCJ, it is expunged from your record. So, no risk of following the advice.

Pay up and you become a part of the scam and are marked as a "mug" for future reference by them. Your choice.

Have you fully read the Newbies/FAQ thread? The second post explains in detail what you must to and by when.

If the "issue date" on the claim is 10th of October, then you have until 4pm on Monday 30th of October to file your AoS using the MCOL. There's no advantage to delaying that. You will then have until 4pm on Monday the 13th of November to file your defence. Do not file your defence using the MCOL.

Hi UncleThomasCobley,

Thanks for the harsh but fair response! I agree I would be a mug to pay, I guess it has just been the doubt that I may have let it go too far to be able to challenge it!

Yes, I have read through the newbie thread. Its a lot to take in on a first read so initially just wanted confirmation that I am making the correct response at the right time. I plan on submitting the AOS in the net 24-48 hrs and then getting my defence together asap. 

Any help is appreciated!

Coupon-mad

Yes you are on track.

You'll beat them without a hearing.

Emerald_111

Coupon-mad said:

 Also thinking should I just pay it as I want to avoid getting a CCJ at all costs!

Errm ... no.  A hard NO.

NOTHING we do puts anyone at risk of a CCJ and people defend claims here every single day.

You WILL NOT get a CCJ.

You will defend and pay nothing.

There won't even be a hearing.

Thank Coupon-Mad for the response and reassurance!

Your posts are very helpful

Much appreciated

patient_dream

Haha, yet another DCBL claim that does not clarify the details of the claim

Another DCBL claim that adds a fake £70 callong it damages .... COMPLETE RUBBISH ?

Another DCBL claim signed by YASMIN MIA as being true when of course it's not

All you can do right now is follow instructions from this forum and play the game with this childrens hour outfit

Emerald_111

patient_dream said:

Emerald_111 said:

Hi all,

I’ve received a claim form from DCB Legal, dated 10th October 2023. Have read through the guidance notes and am about to submit an AOS but would like some advice before I proceed. Here are the details of what has happened so far:

·     I received a PCN from UKPC for parking over a white line with the space next to me in a retail park in Stevenage on 4th February 2023.

·     At some point within 28 days I submitted an appeal via their website (unfortunately I can’t find a copy of my response!).

·     On 22nd March, UKPC confirmed I’d lost the appeal and instructed I pay the charge or make a further appeal through Poplar. At this point, I ignored it.

·     I then received 2 letters from ZZPS for a charge of £170 dated 27th April and 16th May, which I again, ignored.

·     I then received 2 letters from GCTT requesting payment of £170 dated 30th May and 13th June.

·     I then received a Letter of Claim from DCB Legal Ltd dated 1st September requesting payment within 30 days.

I’ve now received a Claim form dated 10th October from the Civil National on behalf of the claimant, UK Parking Control Ltd from DCB Legal Ltd. The are now claiming for the amount of £263.52!

My concern is that I have already implicated myself by admission to being the driver when I made the appeal. Also thinking should I just pay it as I want to avoid getting a CCJ at all costs!

Any advice on what step I should take now would be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Welcome to the ridiculous world of money scammers,

You were right to ignore ZZPS .... commonly called the OSNER SCAM

DCBL just love the idiotic rubbish claims by UKPC, and they waste their own time and that of the courts.
DCBL hope with a court claim that you will chicken out and pay. Once they see your WS which this forum will help you with, THEY REALISE YOU ARE NOT A MUG ???

STILL THINKING YOU ARE A MUG, you will get letters offering a deal, maybe a few times which you ignore

As they want you you to chicken out and pay, all of a sudden they chicken out and discontinue..  and most posts on thie following thread are UKPC rubbish which means they don't want to go to court 

DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377263/dcb-legal-record-of-private-parking-court-claim-discontinuations/p1

The first two points are ..
1: UKPC signs are utter rubbish, small print you can only read if you have binoculars and step ladder to read the signs
2: UKPC are supossed to manage car parks but they don't regarding the actual size of the bays which don't take into account the now larger vehicles which you have no option to park over the white line. 

Why would UKPC want to change this when there is profit involved ??

The whole thing is just a scam.  NO PAYING THE CLOWNS

No doubt the claim includes a fake £70 claiming it is damages ??? WHAT RUBBISH ..... and it is signed as true by the infamours YASMIN MIA
We wonder how long it will be before YASMIN MIA IS ordered to appear in court for CONTEMPT OF COURT

As this is another UKPC rubbish case with a so called legal  who thinks you are a mug ? not on this forum, so you play this childish game

It will take time for them to wake up so follow the experienced forum members

DCBL adore sending out letters with a logo .. "Can't pay we'll take it away"
This was the C5 TV junk which has nothing to do with you and never will

SUCH A VERY SAD FIRM

Hi patient dream,

Thanks for the response and information. 

Haha yes it was YASMIN MIA, of course!!

Your comments are appreciated!!