Storm Babet

MultiFuelBurner

SAC2334 said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

Storms and bad weather are always over egg'd these days.

Bring back Michael Fish 

A few hours before the Great Storm of 1987 broke, on 15 October 1987, he said during the weather: "Earlier on today, apparently, a woman rang the BBC and said she heard there was a hurricane on the way. Well, if you're watching, don't worry, there isn't!".

No they re not .Up in North East Scotland in the middle of winter a couple of years ago my friend in Aberdeenshire had a terrible time in very cold weather with no heating for two weeks due to power cuts .His son  and family nearby ended up getting transferred to a hotel 20 miles away on the coast. Windspeed forecast up there is a similar speed to the one which downed all the trees.
In my area we get bigger floods than ever in the recorded history of our local river levels which caused huge areas of flooded villages  .The weather is getting more extreme events as predicted in climate change theory . 

And I can remember 4 people I know power cut off in floods for 4 weeks and had to move out for a year but it is generally over egg'd to the extreme as the news only knows one way to report with shock and awe these days. Two days of hunkering down, don't do anything stupid like drive and it'll all be over.

That said the friends I know that live in a flood plain can afford to move but don't so have limited sympathy for them.

Just as an aside we picked our latest home well away from any rivers and a decent height above sea level and not coastal. I wonder if others think of such things on their house search list or just get set on an area come what may?

How many people will search out flood plains and future predictions when buying?

https://map.sepa.org.uk/floodmaps/FloodRisk/FutureFloodMaps

https://www.yourweather.co.uk/news/science/research-reveals-top-10-areas-in-uk-at-risk-of-future-flooding-climate-change.html

Qyburn

MultiFuelBurner said:
... it is generally over egg'd to the extreme as the news only knows one way to report with shock and awe these days. 

I can't speak for the news but local authorities and SSEN were all seriously unprepared for Arwen, so there's an element of over reaction in compensation.

For many years Met Office forecasts tend to over egg precipitation, simply filling in "heavy" continuously over the whole period where it's remotely possible. XC Weather makes their best guess, so you see the expected patterns and timings, they are more accurate for wind as well.

MultiFuelBurner

Qyburn said:

MultiFuelBurner said:
... it is generally over egg'd to the extreme as the news only knows one way to report with shock and awe these days. 

I can't speak for the news but local authorities and SSEN were all seriously unprepared for Arwen, so there's an element of over reaction in compensation.

For many years Met Office forecasts tend to over egg precipitation, simply filling in "heavy" continuously over the whole period where it's remotely possible. XC Weather makes their best guess, so you see the expected patterns and timings, they are more accurate for wind as well.

Depends how you measure it 3 fatalities, as sad as that is, was not a bad outcome. Power well we can all live without power for some time and have to accept if we live in what could be termed remote and susceptible to harsh weather locations then that's the rub.

oldagetraveller1

What "storm"?

It's that yellow rain that really terrifies me.

molerat

A bit breezy here.  We have been downgraded to yellow for wind from yellow wind and rain.  A few places out in the sticks around us have the power off.  https://powertrack.ssen.co.uk/powertrack

Granddaughter has an appointment in Aberdeen tomorrow. that could be fun.

Daughter is booked for Enchanted Forest in Pitlochry on Saturday.

mmmmikey

....in case any of you missed the official warning

SAC2334

The only warnings of note are for up in North East Scotland where Met Office have issued a red warning .Rest of UK are not really affected that much  . Storm Babet is travelling North then gets stopped in its track s by a blocking high around Aberdeenshire  and its heavy  rain not wind which is forecast to cause some flooding . SSE reporting a lot of  unplanned power cuts already though .

Scot_39

A large area of Amber warning now covers central spine of mid to Northern England from just above Leicester to borders.

And a  leg stretches further West to North of Birmingham, over to Chester, impacting parts of Greater Manchester etc..

Many towns have low lying areas prone to flooding - even without the more commonly reported dramatic instances of nearby rivers bursting banks.  As often the drains simply fail to cope with volumes.

On a local hill near me - the stanks at the middle to bottom turn into mini fountains - as water overflows from drain system.
Some of even the heavy stank covers have to be re-seated after heavy rains.

The main road near to the top of that hill floods to 6" plus at kerbside in places regularly.  And its a busy school run route.

Taking water over crown and even inches over  pavement.  And enough in past to "kill" some cars attempting to pass.

One route to my inlaws in suburbs of a city under the amber warning goes under a railway bridge  - it floods maybe to a couple of feet at times and can trap the unwary - who either dont understand or simply see too late the depth markings on either side.

A mass of water can be a remarkably destructive event.

I assume you or your family have never lived with aftermath of a house or business being flooded.

Edited in light of your 3:13pm post

And if moving at any sort of pace - water even just a few inches deep - let alone the x feet deep that can occur downstream as water chanelled into smaller area - can be very dangerous to people, cars and even land / property.

You may well be OK, others sadly across the wider UK as previous storms will not.

Amber and red warnings are not trivial events. 

They are issued for a reason.

molerat

350 homes evacuated in Brechin ahead of forecast flooding

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-67146840

Eldi_Dos

MultiFuelBurner said:

SAC2334 said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

Storms and bad weather are always over egg'd these days.

Bring back Michael Fish 

A few hours before the Great Storm of 1987 broke, on 15 October 1987, he said during the weather: "Earlier on today, apparently, a woman rang the BBC and said she heard there was a hurricane on the way. Well, if you're watching, don't worry, there isn't!".

No they re not .Up in North East Scotland in the middle of winter a couple of years ago my friend in Aberdeenshire had a terrible time in very cold weather with no heating for two weeks due to power cuts .His son  and family nearby ended up getting transferred to a hotel 20 miles away on the coast. Windspeed forecast up there is a similar speed to the one which downed all the trees.
In my area we get bigger floods than ever in the recorded history of our local river levels which caused huge areas of flooded villages  .The weather is getting more extreme events as predicted in climate change theory . 

How many people will search out flood plains and future predictions when buying?

Whenever I see Meadow in a developments branding I always think flood plain, do not see as much nowadays.