Delayed delivery cost me extra £200 approx

yota
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I am a bulk gas customer with Calor Gas and when running very low on gas in August (22nd) this year contacted my Calor supplier and ordered a total fill for my bulk gas tank. At that time the unit ppl for gas was less than 70p. 
For whatever reason they did not deliver until end of September when the price was at 80ppl and of course the bill was substantially higher.
I spoke to Calor about this and they say they charge the price on day of delivery. A cynic would probably say that the delay was intentional as they were aware of coming price increase but I want to know how I stand legally in respect of what price I should have been charged.
Had the ppl decrease would they have charged me the lower price,,,, i think not
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  • Think not or know not?

    If it's the first, then your assumption is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.

    Have you been charged the price on day of delivery every other time you filled up?
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  • yota
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    Look, Im not into conspiracy theories and can say that as far as I know Ive always been charged the price of gas on the day of ordering. 
    Since changing my supplier to Calor over a year ago its the first time I have had to refill my bulk tank.
    The question I ask is whether it is legal for them to charge the higher price.
  • QrizB
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    edited 16 October 2023 at 9:10AM
    It sounds as though you are out of contract?
    Recent posters on the "other fuels" forum have been obtaining 2-year LPG contracts at less than 50p/litre. You might want to consider this?
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    yota said:
    Since changing my supplier to Calor over a year ago ...
    So you do have a contract with Calor?
    yota said:
    The question I ask is whether it is legal for them to charge the higher price.
    What does your contract say about it?

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    Thank you for that. I have a variable contract with them so I understand that they can charge me the higher rate at the time I ordered a refill  but question why they took 39days to deliver and had to pay the extra  price hike to the day when delivered
  • yota
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    My contract taken out in November 2021 is for 2 years and although taken at 52ppl is variable. The contract does not state when the higher price becomes effective, 
  • QrizB
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    yota said:
    Thank you for that. I have a variable contract with them so I understand that they can charge me the higher rate at the time I ordered a refill  but question why they took 39days to deliver and had to pay the extra  price hike to the day when delivered
    We're back, again, to "what does your contract say?" regarding prices.
    If the contract says they will charge you the price applicable on the day of delivery, then that's what you have agreed to.
    And yes, that means that if the price had fallen they would have charged you less.
    However, you really need to review why you signed up to a variable contract in the first place. Almost every other LPG customer I've met uses their contract to negotiate a low fixed price for their gas. Agreeing a variable contract is the worst of all worlds; you're tied to one supplier, but at the mercy of their daily pricing variations.
    As per the posts on the Other Fuels forum, you could potentially be paying 42p/litre. Not 70p and definitely not 80p! That's another ~£600 you're out of pocket vs. a fixed contract.
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    edited 16 October 2023 at 9:36AM
    Then I would suggest asking them to send you a link to where in their terms it states the price is set at delivery/dispatch.

    I would also suggest if you are not happy with these terms you ask them to confirm if you still have a right to cancel your contract (and any associated costs). 
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  • yota
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    Thank you all for your input. I am already seeking some better explanation from Calor and my current contract is due for renewal early in November. I will take on board some of the above advice
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