Pre-reg car query

I agreed to buy a pre-reg car from a main dealer 6 months ago and I paid a deposit.  After it proved difficult to agree a date to collect the car, it transpired that the car was not in fact registered.  The dealer said it was in the process of registration and it would take a month.  Then the dealer said that the car had been called in for an emissions test, so delay could be 3 or 4 months.  After another 3 months the dealer said they were just waiting for the log book.  That did not come and after we pushed the dealer for an explanation the dealer said that the manufacturer had to send a Certificate of Conformity to the DVLA.
I don't know the process for a dealer to register a car in its name, but another main dealer has suggested to me that the dealer I was dealing with was not entitled to sell me a pre-reg car until at least three months after registration and that it sounded like they were trying to fob me off as they were not able to deliver the car to me.
Any information much appreciated.
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  • facade
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    edited 14 October 2023 at 10:40AM
    It is probably as simple as the car isn't theirs to sell (yet)

    The salesman will tell you anything rather than the truth. (Which is stupid really, if they were honest instead of stringing you along with fairy stories you could just plan for when it actually would arrive rather than keep wasting time hassling them.)

    I had a conversation only yesterday with a friend who has been going through exactly the same hassle, with exactly the same excuses over buying a "demonstator".

    The log book thing is a complete fabrication. You will never see this logbook, the registration is done on the dealers computer when it is in trade and on their books and DVLA generate your logbook and send it to you. 
    It will have been registered 6 months ago.

    They are waiting for it to be released to them for sale.


    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • daveyjp
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    A few years ago dealers used to register cars for their stock, but then sell them on ans not register the new keeper for 3-6 months.  A test case showed this was potentially an offence so dealers stopped doing it.

    Looks like this is a new way, make excuses until the 3-6 month period has passed.  Registration takes seconds online, emissions test and certificates are BS, unless the car is something not run of the mill and mass produced.
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  • born_again
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    I agreed to buy a pre-reg car from a main dealer 6 months ago and I paid a deposit.  After it proved difficult to agree a date to collect the car, it transpired that the car was not in fact registered.  The dealer said it was in the process of registration and it would take a month.  Then the dealer said that the car had been called in for an emissions test, so delay could be 3 or 4 months.  After another 3 months the dealer said they were just waiting for the log book.  That did not come and after we pushed the dealer for an explanation the dealer said that the manufacturer had to send a Certificate of Conformity to the DVLA.
    I don't know the process for a dealer to register a car in its name, but another main dealer has suggested to me that the dealer I was dealing with was not entitled to sell me a pre-reg car until at least three months after registration and that it sounded like they were trying to fob me off as they were not able to deliver the car to me.
    Any information much appreciated.
    Registration takes seconds online...

    Given "Certificate of Conformity" sounds like a import..

    Who is dealer & Just what car is this? 

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  • I agreed to buy a pre-reg car from a main dealer 6 months ago and I paid a deposit.  After it proved difficult to agree a date to collect the car, it transpired that the car was not in fact registered. 
    Then whatever it was they were trying to sell you was definitely not a pre-Reg!
    As others have said, it takes a few seconds to register a new car these days - it’s all done online but if they have to register it at all, by definition, it’s not a pre-Reg.
    The salesman isn’t being truthful somewhere along the line.

  • Jaybee_16
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    edited 14 October 2023 at 3:00PM
    I recently bought a pre-reg car. It arrived in the UK in mid-September, main dealer registered the car on 28 September. 
    When I bought the car on 3 October, the dealer had the V5 document but did the DVLA transfer of ownership of my trade-in online, giving me a printed confirmation dated and time stamped.

    28 September - Vehicle first registered by dealer
    3 October - Paid and collected the car with 12 miles on the clock
    6 October - V5 arrived from DVLA
    7 October - Note from DVLA confirming trade-in of old car and I am no longer the owner.
    12 October - Cheque from DVLA for refund of VED from trade-in.

    It's a simple process if done through a reputable dealer. Unless it's a rare import, I think the OP is being told stories.
  • What a load of Bull CRXP.
    My car is a pre reg 5008 old shape, first reg 30/09/2016 To Peugeot ( Head office as such ).
    I purchased it on the 22/12/2016, Had 3 miles on the clock before test drive and 8 afterwards.
    They taxed it and gave me the Log book that day.
    Green slip that is.
    On the 02/01/2017 I went to the post office and registered the car as disabled, got a tax refund  and re taxed it.

    I would run for the hills if I were you.
    Warning Will Robinson, Warning.

  • TheGreenFrog
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    edited 14 October 2023 at 4:40PM
    Registration takes seconds online...

    Given "Certificate of Conformity" sounds like a import..

    Who is dealer & Just what car is this? 

    It's a Toyota Yaris.  Not the flash one though!

  • facade said:
    It is probably as simple as the car isn't theirs to sell (yet)

    The salesman will tell you anything rather than the truth. (Which is stupid really, if they were honest instead of stringing you along with fairy stories you could just plan for when it actually would arrive rather than keep wasting time hassling them.)

    I had a conversation only yesterday with a friend who has been going through exactly the same hassle, with exactly the same excuses over buying a "demonstator".

    The log book thing is a complete fabrication. You will never see this logbook, the registration is done on the dealers computer when it is in trade and on their books and DVLA generate your logbook and send it to you. 
    It will have been registered 6 months ago.

    They are waiting for it to be released to them for sale.


    Just wondering how it could have been registered 6 months ago to the dealer but not yet released to them for sale?
  • facade
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    facade said:
    It is probably as simple as the car isn't theirs to sell (yet)

    The salesman will tell you anything rather than the truth. (Which is stupid really, if they were honest instead of stringing you along with fairy stories you could just plan for when it actually would arrive rather than keep wasting time hassling them.)

    I had a conversation only yesterday with a friend who has been going through exactly the same hassle, with exactly the same excuses over buying a "demonstator".

    The log book thing is a complete fabrication. You will never see this logbook, the registration is done on the dealers computer when it is in trade and on their books and DVLA generate your logbook and send it to you. 
    It will have been registered 6 months ago.

    They are waiting for it to be released to them for sale.


    Just wondering how it could have been registered 6 months ago to the dealer but not yet released to them for sale?

    It may have been registered to the Head Office or the equivalent. It could have been registered to that dealer, but they don't hold the title, the registration is who is the keeper-responsible for the legalities, not necessarily the owner with the right to sell.

    The one my friend had trouble with was the demonstrator from a dealership that had "closed" and was for sale at a different dealer- part of the same chain, so he had seen and sat in the car. He was particularly irritated as the reason he bought that one was they promised that he could have it "on Friday" rather than wait months (possibly years) for an order to be built.

    He eventually got it "on Friday" just a Friday several weeks later than the one he thought they meant.


    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • born_again
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    Registration takes seconds online...

    Given "Certificate of Conformity" sounds like a import..

    Who is dealer & Just what car is this? 

    It's a Toyota Yaris.  Not the flash one though!

    Someone is yanking some chains...

    No way does a Yaris need a "Certificate of Conformity"
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