Unexpectedly high energy use

Petriix

I really don't think this usage is particularly high, certainly not outside the range of 'normal' considering the number of variables. The biggest wins all involve causing less heat: turn the heater down (or heat for less time), same for hot water and tumble dryer. Add insulation if practical, exclude draughts and generally heat less space. These things can be pretty subjective but err towards being slightly too cold and wear more layers. 

GoingAlone123

Spoonie_Turtle said:

dealyboy said:

Are you saying that 3,371 kWh and 3,201 kWh are EDF (day/night) annual estimates and that your actual usage (from the Hub is 745 kWh in colder months, 500 kWh in milder months and then around 250 kWh in summer months in not quite a year? If so the thread progression should be quite different, EDF estimates lag by months/years and are inconsistent depending on where you look on the dashboard. The 'Energy Hub' is accurate as should your bills be (but not guaranteed).

I interpreted that to mean those figure per month in each of the colder/milder/summer months.

If indeed it's total, i.e. a total of 250kWh used across all the summer months, then yes this thread definitely went in the wrong direction!

Hi, yes I meant those figures per month, not total. I also have only been in the property for a year and before I moved in it was empty for about the same time. So I haven't a clue of the accuracy of the annual estimates given by EDF. 

Thanks for you reply! I was not expecting so many comments and am a bit overwhelmed by all the info (a lot of which seems like another language to me!). I'm wading through it all and very hopeful I'll be able to cut my costs! 

Qyburn

Is it a conventional vented tumble drier, condenser or heat pump? The first two types use about 2kW, so a typical run uses 4kWh. Vented have the additional loss of blowing thst hot air our of the house, meaning you need more heating.

It's well worth getting one or two of those Tapo P110 monitoring plugs and test various appliances. Using them I found our TV was using 11W on standby, tweaking some settings and resetting things got it to behave itself and draw less than 0.5W. And our old freezer was running for hours on end drawing 70W as a result of faulty defrosting, using over 2kWh per day. We replaced that and the new one uses well under half.

Another win was my home PC, which was not really going to sleep. Setting it to "Hibernate" instead brought its idle power down to virtually nothing.

dealyboy

GoingAlone123 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

dealyboy said:

Are you saying that 3,371 kWh and 3,201 kWh are EDF (day/night) annual estimates and that your actual usage (from the Hub is 745 kWh in colder months, 500 kWh in milder months and then around 250 kWh in summer months in not quite a year? If so the thread progression should be quite different, EDF estimates lag by months/years and are inconsistent depending on where you look on the dashboard. The 'Energy Hub' is accurate as should your bills be (but not guaranteed).

I interpreted that to mean those figure per month in each of the colder/milder/summer months.

If indeed it's total, i.e. a total of 250kWh used across all the summer months, then yes this thread definitely went in the wrong direction!

Hi, yes I meant those figures per month, not total. I also have only been in the property for a year and before I moved in it was empty for about the same time. So I haven't a clue of the accuracy of the annual estimates given by EDF. 

Thanks for you reply! I was not expecting so many comments and am a bit overwhelmed by all the info (a lot of which seems like another language to me!). I'm wading through it all and very hopeful I'll be able to cut my costs! 

Thanks GoingAlone123 (obviously you're not alone here  ) ...

I think then that your usage figures are pretty close to the EDF estimate ... EDF 6,572, yours 5,980 (taking 4 months in each category). ... So back to work on working out your costs and peak/off-peak profile 

wild666

I just looked up my EPC rating and it's D but expired in Feb 2021. There is at least one flat in my block that has a C rating.

MultiFuelBurner

wild666 said:

I just looked up my EPC rating and it's D but expired in Feb 2021. There is at least one flat in my block that has a C rating.

Find out what person did that other flat and slip him £50

matt_drummer

MultiFuelBurner said:

wild666 said:

I just looked up my EPC rating and it's D but expired in Feb 2021. There is at least one flat in my block that has a C rating.

Find out what person did that other flat and slip him £50

Maybe the other flat is different?

Anyway, I'm curious as this subject has come up a few times recently.

What would the benefit be of having an epc rating of c when it's actually a d?

Changing the epc rating won't make it more energy efficient or cheaper to heat and run generally?

What would they gain from slipping the assessor £50, I can only see that they would have lost £50?

ArbitraryRandom

You should be able to see the EPC of the flat that has a c rating - and you can compare it to yours.

Could be if you're close to the limit it's something you can change quickly and easily - or if that other assessment was done recently then the scoring has changed over the years, so you might find yours is naturally improved anyway. 

MultiFuelBurner

matt_drummer said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

wild666 said:

I just looked up my EPC rating and it's D but expired in Feb 2021. There is at least one flat in my block that has a C rating.

Find out what person did that other flat and slip him £50

Maybe the other flat is different?

Anyway, I'm curious as this subject has come up a few times recently.

What would the benefit be of having an epc rating of c when it's actually a d?

Changing the epc rating won't make it more energy efficient or cheaper to heat and run generally?

What would they gain from slipping the assessor £50, I can only see that they would have lost £50?

Of course but having been around for wilds other comments it seemed apt to have a joke 🤣🤣🤣

And to answer your question perhaps especially for flats but all property of an EPC of C and above could have been a benefit had Rishi not scraped the upcoming minimum EPC grade C to rent.

matt_drummer

MultiFuelBurner said:

Of course but having been around for wilds other comments it seemed apt to have a joke 🤣🤣🤣

And to answer your question perhaps especially for flats but all property of an EPC of C and above could have been a benefit had Rishi not scraped the upcoming minimum EPC grade C to rent.

OK.

There is one poster on here who seems rather hung up on epc's when buying a house on the basis that it is some factual document that guarantees something.

I'm pretty sure that my epc will have gone down since I replaced the gas with a heat pump even though my energy bills are now zero (in fact they are an income) but I can only imagine trying to explain that to an epc assessor!

All that really matters is how much the home costs to run in energy terms, a number and a letter on a piece of paper doesn't change any of that.