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Private Parking fine - Appeal Process

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  • Coupon-mad
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  • KeithP
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    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
  • KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
    KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
    Is this the template you are referring to: 

    Re PCN number:

    I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

    If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

    If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner.

  • KeithP
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    KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
    KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
    Is this the template you are referring to: 

    Re PCN number:

    I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

    If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

    If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner.
    No it is not. That is the appeal in the opening post of the NEWBIES thread.

    I suggested, and gave you a link to, the second post of the NEWBIES thread which explains in the greatest detail how to defend yourself against a claim.
  • KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
    KeithP said:
    KeithP said:
    No.  You want to defend, so just use the Template Defence.  That's why it's at the top of the forum.

    What is the issue date of the Claim Form?

    What's the date that MCOL says you did the AOS?
    Issue date is 19th September 2023 - I got an extension on the response time

    What is AOS?
    I wonder what this means?... "I got an extension on the response time".
    I am going to assume that means that you have filed an Acknowledgment of Service some time after 22nd September and before 10th October.
    Please confirm that, or correct me if I am wrong.

    You are in a very time critical situation here.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 19th September, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd October 2023 to file your Defence.

    That's just a few days away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    Yes my dealine to respond is 23rd October. I was advised by the CNBC that I can do this online 
    Yes it is possible to file a Defence online, but you are severely restricted on the size of your Defence.

    The suggestion here is to always file a Defence as a PDF document and the details on how to do that are fully explained in the template Defence thread.
    Is this the template you are referring to: 

    Re PCN number:

    I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

    If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

    If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner.
    No it is not. That is the appeal in the opening post of the NEWBIES thread.

    I suggested, and gave you a link to, the second post of the NEWBIES thread which explains in the greatest detail how to defend yourself against a claim.
    Okay think I have found it, it has 30 points and set out in defence letter? Reading through it I am not sure what all of it means though.  
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 18 October 2023 at 7:09PM
    What don't you understand about the template defence? It's written in plain English and I'm not a lawyer so it's not legalese.

    Show us your added section.
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