Unlicensed vehicle fine

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  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,009 Forumite
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    It's still possible to declare your vehicle as SORN without a V5C. If you've just bought the car, you might not have a full logbook yet. However, you can also use the reference number from your V5C/2, which is the slip the seller should have given you when you made the purchase.


    The OPs problem is that the V5c was not the most recent one, so the numbers on both the V5C & V5C/2 are invalid.
    (The V5C/2 number is the same as the V5C number, with the addition of one extra digit)
    Probably he didn't get a V5C for the same reason if the seller filled in his details on an invalid V5C and posted it off.

    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • sevenhills
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    facade said:
    The OPs problem is that the V5c was not the most recent one, so the numbers on both the V5C & V5C/2 are invalid.
    (The V5C/2 number is the same as the V5C number, with the addition of one extra digit)
    Probably he didn't get a V5C for the same reason if the seller filled in his details on an invalid V5C and posted it off.

    You can tax your car while waiting for the log book. However, you will need to provide a V5C/2 form in order to do so. This form is available from the DVLA website and doing so will mean you will have the appropriate vehicle tax.

    It can be costly if people don't know the rules.


  • facade
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    edited 23 September 2023 at 10:05AM
    facade said:
    The OPs problem is that the V5c was not the most recent one, so the numbers on both the V5C & V5C/2 are invalid.
    (The V5C/2 number is the same as the V5C number, with the addition of one extra digit)
    Probably he didn't get a V5C for the same reason if the seller filled in his details on an invalid V5C and posted it off.

    You can tax your car while waiting for the log book. However, you will need to provide a V5C/2 form in order to do so. This form is available from the DVLA website and doing so will mean you will have the appropriate vehicle tax.

    It can be costly if people don't know the rules.


    Good luck finding that, the DVLA don't even have a website!

    You can tax a vehicle at the post office with a valid  MOT provided that you apply for a new V5C at the same time (£25).
    Applying for SORN at a post office does not compute.

    You can apply for SORN without a V5, it costs £25 + a stamp (no idea how much they are now- a couple of pounds I should think), as you have to apply for a new V5 on a V62 and SORN on a V890 which must be carefully stapled together and posted to DVLA. (the new V5 is free if you have a valid "new keeper" slip, which was the Ops problem in the first place........



    Anyway, the information is there to be found out and applied, so unfortunately, it looks like the OP has to pay the demand from DVLA.
    DVLA never forget, and are quite happy to spend £1000 of taxpayer money recovering every £1 they are owed.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • Hi
    i bought a car that was not roadworthy and was kept on a private drive. It was never driven and would be towed to and from the garage when needed or looked at by a mobile mechanic. I went to tax it when it was almost ready but couldn’t so rang Dvla who told me the logbook i have is an old one which explains why even though it was filled and sent to Dvla they didn’t issue a new logbook and it wasn’t the most recent logbook. 

    The person I spoke to at Dvla advised me to apply for a new logbook and once o receive the new logbook I can then tax the vehicle. 

    I did this and didn’t receive a logbook for 3 months. After which I called Dvla and the issued a replacement. 

    I have now received a fine for failing to tax or sorn this car. 

    I appealed and explained I couldn’t do anything without the logbook or tax reminder. And as soon as I had a logbook I did sorn the vehicle. 

    But they’ve rejected my appeal. 

    Ia there anything I can do. The car has always been off road and never driven whilst I’ve had it. 
    There is a real lack of comprehension here, people are telling the OP to do what he clearly said that he had done.  

    The car is unroadworthy, so no MOT to produce at the Post Office.  He has applied for a new V5, but it hasn't been received.
  • Hi
    i bought a car that was not roadworthy and was kept on a private drive. It was never driven and would be towed to and from the garage when needed or looked at by a mobile mechanic. I went to tax it when it was almost ready but couldn’t so rang Dvla who told me the logbook i have is an old one which explains why even though it was filled and sent to Dvla they didn’t issue a new logbook and it wasn’t the most recent logbook. 

    The person I spoke to at Dvla advised me to apply for a new logbook and once o receive the new logbook I can then tax the vehicle. 

    I did this and didn’t receive a logbook for 3 months. After which I called Dvla and the issued a replacement. 

    I have now received a fine for failing to tax or sorn this car. 

    I appealed and explained I couldn’t do anything without the logbook or tax reminder. And as soon as I had a logbook I did sorn the vehicle. 

    But they’ve rejected my appeal. 

    Ia there anything I can do. The car has always been off road and never driven whilst I’ve had it. 
    There is a real lack of comprehension here, people are telling the OP to do what he clearly said that he had done.  

    The car is unroadworthy, so no MOT to produce at the Post Office.  He has applied for a new V5, but it hasn't been received.
    He didn't try to tax it because it was off-road getting fixed, so he did fail to tax or SORN the vehicle, guilty.

  • A good lesson in why you are better off doing it all online.

    I’ve bought and sold a few cars privately over the past few years. Each time it’s been done online so I have it in writing the car is in my name and taxed (or transferred to someone else) before I even start the engine to head home.  It also 100% confirms the V5C is current and not duff.
  • facade
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    A good lesson in why you are better off doing it all online.

    I’ve bought and sold a few cars privately over the past few years. Each time it’s been done online so I have it in writing the car is in my name and taxed (or transferred to someone else) before I even start the engine to head home.  It also 100% confirms the V5C is current and not duff.
    Is the correct answer.
    You cannot tax or declare SORN online if you don't have the last issued V5C/2 in your hand to type in the number.

    You must do the SORN by Post  and apply for a V5 (with a £25 fee) at the same time if the V5C/2 is not the last issued one.

    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
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