First baby passport - Confirm his identity question

Perti

DullGreyGuy said:

Perti said:

NoodleDoodleMan said:

I recently confirmed the identity of an infant for a couple I know for the first passport - very straightforward.

Hi, doesn't the one confirming the identity have to be in the following jobs listed on the passport website listed below for a child's passport? 

• accountant
• airline pilot
• articled clerk of a limited company
• assurance agent of recognised company
• bank or building society official
• barrister
• chairman or director of a limited company
• chiropodist
• commissioner for oaths
• councillor, for example local or county
• civil servant (permanent)
• dentist
• director, manager or personnel officer of a VAT-registered company
• engineer with professional qualifications
• financial services intermediary, for example a stockbroker or insurance broker
• fire service official
• funeral director
• insurance agent (full time) of a recognised company
• journalist
• Justice of the Peace
• legal secretary (fellow or associate member of the Institute of Legal Secretaries and PAs)
• licensee of a public house
• local government officer
• manager or personnel officer of a limited company
• member, associate or fellow of a professional body
• Member of Parliament
• Merchant Navy officer
• minister of a recognised religion (including Christian Science)
• nurse (RGN or RMN)
• officer of the armed services
• optician
• paralegal (certified paralegal, qualified paralegal or associate member of the Institute of Paralegals)
• person with honours, for example an OBE or MBE
• pharmacist
• photographer (professional)
• police officer
• Post Office official
• president or secretary of a recognised organisation
• Salvation Army officer
• social worker
• solicitor
• surveyor
• teacher or lecturer
• trade union officer
• travel agent (qualified)
• valuer or auctioneer (fellow or associate members of the incorporated society)
• Warrant Officers and Chief Petty Officers

Why resurrect an 18 month old thread to ask?

The have to be something similar to the above or a retired person who's last job was. Note the two that are in bold, a manager of a limited company or vat registered business... they're the two that open it up to a vast range of people. 

We have a running joke in our local because everyone now and then someone says they are struggling to find someone and then someone shouts out who can do it and about half the pub regulars put their hands up as there are several trades running their own limited company, the manager behind the bar, the publican, the manager at a nursery, a retired copper, a chartered accountant, a few other micro LTD directors etc. 

Are the rules different 18 months in? 

Perti

NoodleDoodleMan said:

It was our next door neighbours that I actioned - no mention of any status of the confirming source as I recall.

Strange one that.

I guess this wasn't a first passport? 

NoodleDoodleMan

Perti said:

NoodleDoodleMan said:

It was our next door neighbours that I actioned - no mention of any status of the confirming source as I recall.

Strange one that.

I guess this wasn't a first passport? 

It was their first baby passports - two of them.

Why strange ?

I was simply confirming them as the children of applicants known to me.

I can't recall if I had to quote my previous professional standing - maybe that was the key issue ? 

DullGreyGuy

NoodleDoodleMan said:

I can't recall if I had to quote my previous professional standing - maybe that was the key issue ? 

Dont know how long ago you are talking about but certainly in recent years the witness has to state their occupation and either British or Irish passport number

I dont know what checks they do behind the scenes but recently a retired senior police officer who's signed dozens of applications got deemed "inappropriate" without contact from anyone but they were happy with the next supplied signature from an accountant. 

user1977

DullGreyGuy said:

NoodleDoodleMan said:

I can't recall if I had to quote my previous professional standing - maybe that was the key issue ? 

I dont know what checks they do behind the scenes 

I have known of professionals getting called at work to confirm it was really them who countersigned.

NoodleDoodleMan

"Dont know how long ago you are talking about but certainly in recent years the witness has to state their occupation and either British or Irish passport number"

Yes to both the above in my case, standard procedure.

DullGreyGuy

user1977 said:

DullGreyGuy said:

NoodleDoodleMan said:

I can't recall if I had to quote my previous professional standing - maybe that was the key issue ? 

I dont know what checks they do behind the scenes 

I have known of professionals getting called at work to confirm it was really them who countersigned.

Likewise but dont know why a retired chief superintendent thats signed dozens of passport applications without issue was suddenly deemed unacceptable without having any calls or missed calls etc. 

smudge56

DullGreyGuy said:

user1977 said:

DullGreyGuy said:

NoodleDoodleMan said:

I can't recall if I had to quote my previous professional standing - maybe that was the key issue ? 

I dont know what checks they do behind the scenes 

I have known of professionals getting called at work to confirm it was really them who countersigned.

Likewise but dont know why a retired chief superintendent thats signed dozens of passport applications without issue was suddenly deemed unacceptable without having any calls or missed calls etc. 

probably an inexperienced case worker   Being retired or unemployed does not stop you from being eligible if the profession was acceptable. (And any retired person over 70 is acceptable - no matter what their job was)