The new energy bill

la531983

Brie said:

la531983 said:

Brie said:

"They" can turn off the power any time they want.  If there's a power shortage there will be a warning, an exemption for certain vulnerable households and then a power cut.  

Highly doubt this would happen even with smart meters, the current system would remain. If you are on dialysis, you would still lose your power. 

When there was a last round of threatened power cuts or gray outs there was a lot of whohah about "if you are vulnerable we will keep you safe".  So I would assume that would mean providing generators for those who would not survive a prolonged cut or a move to somewhere where it would not be an issue (hospital).  Thinking more those on ventilators rather than dialysis which I assumed was a tad more time flexible, i.e. do it earlier than normal to miss the problem time.  

Well yes anyone on the PSR would get assistance, maybe a genny or a move elsewhere but they would get their power cut at the same time as their neighbour during rolling blackouts. Smart meter or no smart meter. 

Qyburn

la531983 said:

... they would get their power cut at the same time as their neighbour during rolling blackouts. Smart meter or no smart meter. 

It wpuld be great ammunition for the anti smart meter conspiracy theorists, if the rolling blackout only affected those on smart meters.

la531983

Qyburn said:

la531983 said:

... they would get their power cut at the same time as their neighbour during rolling blackouts. Smart meter or no smart meter. 

It wpuld be great ammunition for the anti smart meter conspiracy theorists, if the rolling blackout only affected those on smart meters.

Which of course it wouldn't, it would be done in blocks from "head office" or whatever the term is, based on geography, not discriminating against the type of meter. 

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la531983 said:

Brie said:

la531983 said:

Brie said:

"They" can turn off the power any time they want.  If there's a power shortage there will be a warning, an exemption for certain vulnerable households and then a power cut.  

Highly doubt this would happen even with smart meters, the current system would remain. If you are on dialysis, you would still lose your power. 

When there was a last round of threatened power cuts or gray outs there was a lot of whohah about "if you are vulnerable we will keep you safe".  So I would assume that would mean providing generators for those who would not survive a prolonged cut or a move to somewhere where it would not be an issue (hospital).  Thinking more those on ventilators rather than dialysis which I assumed was a tad more time flexible, i.e. do it earlier than normal to miss the problem time.  

Well yes anyone on the PSR would get assistance, maybe a genny or a move elsewhere but they would get their power cut at the same time as their neighbour during rolling blackouts. Smart meter or no smart meter. 

In the 1970s (the three day week) power cuts were on a regional basis and to my knowledge the elderly or those with special needs did not get extra assistance. If people are told in advance, it can be managed. It was though a very cold Winter. I recall that I got 3 no power days at work followed by 3 no power days at home.

la531983

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la531983 said:

Brie said:

la531983 said:

Brie said:

"They" can turn off the power any time they want.  If there's a power shortage there will be a warning, an exemption for certain vulnerable households and then a power cut.  

Highly doubt this would happen even with smart meters, the current system would remain. If you are on dialysis, you would still lose your power. 

When there was a last round of threatened power cuts or gray outs there was a lot of whohah about "if you are vulnerable we will keep you safe".  So I would assume that would mean providing generators for those who would not survive a prolonged cut or a move to somewhere where it would not be an issue (hospital).  Thinking more those on ventilators rather than dialysis which I assumed was a tad more time flexible, i.e. do it earlier than normal to miss the problem time.  

Well yes anyone on the PSR would get assistance, maybe a genny or a move elsewhere but they would get their power cut at the same time as their neighbour during rolling blackouts. Smart meter or no smart meter. 

In the 1970s (the three day week) power cuts were on a regional basis and to my knowledge the elderly or those with special needs did not get extra assistance. If people are told in advance, it can be managed. It was though a very cold Winter. I recall that I got 3 no power days at work followed by 3 no power days at home.

Exactly, it's impossible for rolling cuts to be on a house by house level as far as I know, and there would be far too many peoples needs to factor in even if it was possible. 

MattMattMattUK

There are around 3.2 million households on the PSR, around 11%. There are maybe a few thousand backup generators available, but these would not integrate with a home supply, they would at a max of 30 amps of supply, likely much less, they would also need refueling on a regular basis. The plan would be, as it always has been, to provide locations for individuals to be sheltered in, with power and warmth. 

Chrysalis

Take it with a grain of salt, as an example EPC enforcement on rented properties is practically zero.

Laws can get passed to make it look like things are being done, but what happens in the real world may be totally different.

I even had a council inspection in my private rented property a few weeks back (1st unsolicited in 17 years of living here), they were fussy about the little things like if I had a smoke alarm or c/o detector.

But did they care my EPC is an F? of course not, because if they did they would likely be rehousing me when the LL sells up as a reaction to an enforcement notice requiring him to spend thousands, which of course they wont want to do.

I just cant see this being routinely enforced, especially if its by councils who dont have the manpower. Prisons are over crowded, and its not a good sale for the government to be fining people such large sums for not doing expensive renovation work.